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How did Agnes get invited? Why not give Cesario a shot.
Wow, I honestly had no idea choreography affected jumps and other elements. (Other than obviously not taking the time to set up properly and footwork, where you have to do both at the same time) I always figured it was more like the floor routines in gymnastics - you could do a RO-bh-double layout no matter what music/choreography you did with it. So the important thing was to have your triple-triple consistent and then you could do it no matter if you were performing to Swan Lake, Les Miserables, or Riverdance.
Is this only because of the COP system and it being more complex, or has it always been this way?
How did Agnes get invited? Why not give Cesario a shot.
Alissa Czisny was in the show and she is a sad shadow of her former self. She did just one jump, a single axel, and even that seemed to cause her pain. She had a hard time keeping up with her music, and all her moves were slow and tentative, even the spins. The person sitting next to me kept wondering why Alissa was in the show, saying she could barely skate compared to all the other skaters.
Just happy to hear that Alissa was out there to perform in front of people. I hope videos will be up soon somewhere.This is not an Alissa thread, but she did a double axel, and a rather nice one at that. I thought her spins were lovely. The program was to a Scotty McCreery song, and most programs to live singers on Disson shows are not exactly standouts, simply one-time performances that skaters don't really have time to choreograph anything to. She didn't look tentative or in pain to me at all, and I was sitting very close to the ice.
I tried searching YouTube but I couldn't find Gracie's new SP from the show. Do you think it will go up, or are we just going to have to wait until Nationals?
Then again, the show was only last night, right? So maybe someone video taped it, although I'm sure they weren't supposed to
This was posted by user marysy (along with vids from a few other skaters at the show):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4idjEkR-Bs8
I think it's a nice program for Gracie and by Nationals it could be a great thing. I still don't think there was any need to change her original SP when she was scoring so well with it. And I personally didn't have a problem with the music.
OT but here's Alissa's skate since she was brought in the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xW18UWOMsk
To be honest, painfully screechy violin music and windmill-y footwork aside, there was nothing that wrong with her first program. When I watched it with the music turned down it was okay. I think a different version of the music and a reworking of the footwork would have been fine...I'm not sure why they decided the scrap the entire thing. If anything her FS is what needed a complete do-over.
This new program is very blah and meh...bleh...it's a bleh program. It's all soft and pwetty and I just don't get why they keep steering this incredibly fast and powerful skater down this soft and delicate road with these programs. Why can no one give this poor girl a program that highlights her strengths and minimizes her weaknesses? Powerful fast skater = powerful fast music to highlight all of the power and speed. It's not rocket science people... This is your typical run-of-the-mill generic pretty skating program. I do think her spins looked very fast in the video so that's a plus, but her arms are still too stiff and straight...I don't know if they'll ever be able to fix that. But overall, this is nothing special, unique or memorable.
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This new program is very blah and meh...bleh...it's a bleh program. It's all soft and pwetty and I just don't get why they keep steering this incredibly fast and powerful skater down this soft and delicate road with these programs. Why can no one give this poor girl a program that highlights her strengths and minimizes her weaknesses? Powerful fast skater = powerful fast music to highlight all of the power and speed. It's not rocket science people...
I agree with you, and the only thing that I can think of it that they are trying to create programs that are more palatable for the judges. While we see her as a power skater, maybe she sees herself as an artistic skater who is great at jumps. I do like this program (if only because I hated the last one) and it will score near 70 if skated well, which is about all we can ask from her at this point in her career.
I agree with you, and the only thing that I can think of it that they are trying to create programs that are more palatable for the judges. While we see her as a power skater, maybe she sees herself as an artistic skater who is great at jumps. I do like this program (if only because I hated the last one) and it will score near 70 if skated well, which is about all we can ask from her at this point in her career.
I agree and I'm sure it's Frank who demanded this change. From Tiffany Chin to Michelle Kwan to Evan Lysacek, all of Frank's skaters have been known for their presentation and artistry. Technically, they were all strong skaters but the technical side wasn't their forte; the artistic side was. I don't think Frank has ever had a skater whose forte was the technical, so he's just going with what he knows. Rather than giving Gracie Tosca, Carmina Burana or something strong and powerful to skate to, he's trying to encourage her artistic side to catch up with her technical side.
The program is nice and Gracie skates it well...but not as convincingly as someone who is naturally inclined to be artistic and graceful. Gracie is learning to be artistic and graceful; it's not natural to her and (to me) I can clearly see that in her delivery.