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    Quote Originally Posted by slutskayafan21
    Did you see her free skate, what were her mistakes?
    According to the protocols she made mistakes on her 3 loop and 2 axel.
    http://www.isufs.org/results/gpchn05..._FS_Scores.pdf

    I haven't seen it so I can't comment on what it was but all the judges took off on the 3 loop so I think that was a definite mistake.

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    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...&page=13&pp=15
    See Messages #192 and #195

    Good skate, but not quite worthy of 8.00s.

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    Sounds like Irina won convincingly. It seems like Mao did not bring her A game, she landed triple axels in practice, and in her sleep, but scratched out of the 3a under pressure. Mao did not land any 3/3 either. She still mangaed a second overall.

    I think her post game interview was so cute. She thought she did not skate with strength, and joked about keeping her triple axel at TEB
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    Mao said she was very nervous (it was her first Senior competition, after all). I think she may have been intimidated a bit by competing against the reigning World Champion.

    OTOH, I think Shizuka might be a bit intimidated by skating against Mao (and she gets to do it again at TEB). They both have Sasha to contend with at TEB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gezando
    Sounds like Irina won convincingly. It seems like Mao did not bring her A game, she landed triple axels in practice, and in her sleep, but scratched out of the 3a under pressure. Mao did not land any 3/3 either. She still mangaed a second overall.

    I think her post game interview was so cute. She thought she did not skate with strength, and joked about keeping her triple axel at TEB
    Well, I think that Mao was nervous being its her first senior Grand Prix event and that she was going up against 2 world champions.

    I was suprised to see her do so well beating Shizuka Arakawa in the process but I guess it was suspected considering she will probably be the "one" come 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBC
    According to the protocols she made mistakes on her 3 loop and 2 axel.
    http://www.isufs.org/results/gpchn05..._FS_Scores.pdf

    I haven't seen it so I can't comment on what it was but all the judges took off on the 3 loop so I think that was a definite mistake.
    She came off of a gorgeous 3F/2T-ano, then next came the 3 turns into the 3R. She completed all the rotations (best I could tell from the angle, and the tech caller apparently thought so too) but pitched forward an slowed down on the landing - like she was just slightly off balance. Later, the 2A just look like an even more minor wonky landing.

    I really like the rest of the program - IMO a huge improvement since the debut at Japan International.

    Arakawa's program is looking better each time as well. She is such a beautiful young woman and such a smooth skater. She was skating more tentatively than Irina IMO though. But I think this program has potential if she can max the jumps and element levels. Anyone else but me like her in the short hair cut she had at World's? She is pretty no matter what, but I think the cut at World's sort of softened her look, which I liked.

    2 cents...

    DG

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    Quote Originally Posted by slutskayafan21
    I am sorry but I dont think you can read anything into the Campbells scoring. It is clear that all the skaters received scores higher there than they would elsewhere. For example Rochette scored only 2 points lower than she did for her Skate Canada free skate, but her Skate Canada free skate was MUCH MUCH better than her Campbells skate. Meissner would need her triple axel to have any hope of scoring a 109 as she did at Campbells, a jump she did not do at Campbells. Sasha's 122 is very believable, however breaking down her scores she received very positive GOE for her jumps; Sasha will not be getting her scores from high GOE of jumps, but from everything else, her jumps are not that technicaly high quality, and watching her performance were not in Campbell's either, so she received that 122 with higher GOE of jumps than she will get elsewhere. I believe Irina's 125 in reality is much higher than Sasha's Campbell's 122.


    and how do you know? sasha hasn't even competed in the grand prix events yet and you think irina's 125 is in reality much higher?? how would we know what scores irina would have gotten for a similar program at campbells? for all we know it could have been less. and didn't irina score 115 for her long program at the japan cheesefest? and she did have 6 triples too. both made mistakes. it's also possible that sasha will have made some adjustments to her long (hopefully). after all, she scored 122+ points w/o even getting any jump combinations! oh, just a badly fubbed 3/2/2... and irina got all her 3 different types of jump combos in, no? plus, sasha was the first ladies competitor of the season..and the first one in her group to skate...and who's to say she wouldn't have gotten some 8s if she had been towards the end?

    let's put it more in prospective after TEB... and see if she at least can 'compete' against irina.. after irina's long at COC, i'm more encouraged to note that sasha does indeed have a chance of beating irina now... maybe a long shot to some folks, but a solid chance. obviously the judges have inflated their scores in COC way more than at SA...what with irina getting 70+ points in her short and the second place finisher 62+ in her short...which was even more than sasha's short at 2005 worlds. so, my bet is that sasha would have 'probably' scored more than that had she competed in COC.:frown2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    Oh, not so, Millie. After the short program, I thought so, too. But the free skate -- 125 points -- that is something the other girls can shoot at. Sasha got 124.61 at Worlds, for instance.

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    i agree. the free skate score is well within range for sasha who can even surpass that easily with some adjustments.

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    I'm not surprised at the judges' scores for Irina. In fact I'm not even anxious to see her skate because I don't think it will be any different than what I saw in Moscow. I do want to see Mao since I've never seen her - not to compare with Irina but to see how I like in terms of being special. (One doesn't have to win to be special for me). I probably won't see Yan Liu which will disappoint me.

    On to Paris - How is Sasha's back holding up - anyone know?

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz
    I'm not surprised at the judges' scores for Irina. In fact I'm not even anxious to see her skate because I don't think it will be any different than what I saw in Moscow. I do want to see Mao since I've never seen her - not to compare with Irina but to see how I like in terms of being special. (One doesn't have to win to be special for me). I probably won't see Yan Liu which will disappoint me.

    On to Paris - How is Sasha's back holding up - anyone know?

    Joe
    I completely agree with your opinion about seeing Irina's program. Can't really say why, but I am just not interested. I am interested in seeing Mao's programs, but when she starts doing a 3 toe and a 3 sal in her programs, I'll be more excited about her.

    About Sasha, a couple of weeks ago a poster on her forum (who skates at Sasha's rink and always has tidbits to share) mentioned that Sasha was showing no signs of an injury and was doing full run-throughs.

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    About Sasha, a couple of weeks ago a poster on her forum (who skates at Sasha's rink and always has tidbits to share) mentioned that Sasha was showing no signs of an injury and was doing full run-throughs.
    So does this mean she's going to TEB? Team Cohen has made no mention of it thus far.

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    i believe that it was stated on the broadcast of SC today that sasha's next comp. will be TEB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracefulswan
    i believe that it was stated on the broadcast of SC today that sasha's next comp. will be TEB.
    But IIRC they were careful to say her next scheduled competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracefulswan
    i believe that it was stated on the broadcast of SC today that sasha's next comp. will be TEB.
    Yeah, but I don't take that to mean she's going. After all, last year they said MK would be at SA when she wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz
    I'm not surprised at the judges' scores for Irina. In fact I'm not even anxious to see her skate because I don't think it will be any different than what I saw in Moscow. I do want to see Mao since I've never seen her - not to compare with Irina but to see how I like in terms of being special. (One doesn't have to win to be special for me). I probably won't see Yan Liu which will disappoint me.

    On to Paris - How is Sasha's back holding up - anyone know?

    Joe
    Hi Joe. I watched the COC programs via the internet coverage. IMO Irina's LP was a little short of Moscow. A good showing for this time in the season, but Irina really had a special "zing" in the Moscow LP that IMO wasn't quite there for COC. However I thought her SP DID pack a very special "zing" at COC.

    I downloaded her last year's SP from GPF (that was the one where she got her personal best score) and watched that, and her COC SP back to back. I like this year's SP much better - especially if she continues to skate it like she did at COC. Of course I have no idea what these programs look like live in the arena compared to TV/internet - so..... what do I know?

    IMO Mao is a fresh face of the future for Ladies FS. It was fun to watch her because she is so darn cute, and just has this exhuberance of being a kid, which she is. I'm looking forward to watching her further development.

    DG

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