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SailorGalaxia518 · Nov 18, 2005

1 Sasha COHEN USA 60.96 31.80 29.16 7.40 6.90 7.45 7.20 7.50 0.00 #6
2 Shizuka ARAKAWA JPN 57.98 29.30 28.68 7.50 6.80 7.20 7.15 7.20 0.00 #3
3 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 57.08 30.20 26.88 6.85 6.50 6.80 6.60 6.85 0.00 #4
4 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 48.20 22.60 26.60 6.90 6.40 6.60 6.60 6.75 1.00 #7
5 Annette DYTRT GER 44.38 22.94 21.44 5.55 5.05 5.35 5.35 5.50 0.00 #8
6 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 38.30 19.82 18.48 4.75 4.25 4.70 4.70 4.70 0.00 #2
7 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 37.48 15.88 21.60 5.70 5.20 5.35 5.45 5.30 0.00 #1
8 Fleur MAXWELL LUX 34.06 15.10 18.96 4.85 4.50 4.60 4.90 4.85 0.00 #5

Mathman · Nov 18, 2005

Sokolova must have made a major errors.

Elena at Skate America: Tech 31.7, PCS 26.24

Elena at TEB: Tech 22.60, PCS 26.60

SailorGalaxia518 · Nov 18, 2005

Mathman said:
Sokolova must have made a major errors.

Elena at Skate America: Tech 31.7, PCS 26.24

Elena at TEB: Tech 22.60, PCS 26.60

Yeah, she fell on her combo

swannanoa54 · Nov 18, 2005

Gee, not one single 8 in Sasha's scores. Didn't Irina get some 8s in her PCS scores for her SP?

Frau Muller · Nov 18, 2005

Yup -- looks like Irina will be the one to beat at the Olympics (so far).

edited to add:

WHOAH!!!!! MAO TAKES OVER THE LEAD!!!!!! Has accomplished this due to Tech Score way ahead of Sasha....only 3rd in presentation, behind Shizuka.

SailorGalaxia518 · Nov 18, 2005

1 Mao ASADA JPN 63.96 36.60 27.36 6.90 6.55 7.05 6.80 6.90 0.00 #9
2 Sasha COHEN USA 60.96 31.80 29.16 7.40 6.90 7.45 7.20 7.50 0.00 #6
3 Shizuka ARAKAWA JPN 57.98 29.30 28.68 7.50 6.80 7.20 7.15 7.20 0.00 #3
4 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 57.08 30.20 26.88 6.85 6.50 6.80 6.60 6.85 0.00 #4
5 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 48.20 22.60 26.60 6.90 6.40 6.60 6.60 6.75 1.00 #7
6 Annette DYTRT GER 44.38 22.94 21.44 5.55 5.05 5.35 5.35 5.50 0.00 #8
7 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 38.30 19.82 18.48 4.75 4.25 4.70 4.70 4.70 0.00 #2
8 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 37.48 15.88 21.60 5.70 5.20 5.35 5.45 5.30 0.00 #1
9 Fleur MAXWELL LUX 34.06 15.10 18.96 4.85 4.50 4.60 4.90 4.85 0.00 #5

SailorGalaxia518 · Nov 18, 2005

1 Mao ASADA JPN 63.96 36.60 27.36 6.90 6.55 7.05 6.80 6.90 0.00 #9
2 Sasha COHEN USA 60.96 31.80 29.16 7.40 6.90 7.45 7.20 7.50 0.00 #6
3 Shizuka ARAKAWA JPN 57.98 29.30 28.68 7.50 6.80 7.20 7.15 7.20 0.00 #3
4 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 57.08 30.20 26.88 6.85 6.50 6.80 6.60 6.85 0.00 #4
5 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 48.20 22.60 26.60 6.90 6.40 6.60 6.60 6.75 1.00 #7
6 Annette DYTRT GER 44.38 22.94 21.44 5.55 5.05 5.35 5.35 5.50 0.00 #8
7 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 38.30 19.82 18.48 4.75 4.25 4.70 4.70 4.70 0.00 #2
8 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 37.48 15.88 21.60 5.70 5.20 5.35 5.45 5.30 0.00 #1
9 Anne Sophie CALVEZ FRA 36.72 17.56 19.16 4.95 4.65 4.80 4.70 4.85 0.00 #10
10 Fleur MAXWELL LUX 34.06 15.10 18.96 4.85 4.50 4.60 4.90 4.85 0.00 #5

SailorGalaxia518 · Nov 18, 2005

Standings after SP:

1 Mao ASADA JPN 63.96 36.60 27.36 6.90 6.55 7.05 6.80 6.90 0.00 #9
2 Sasha COHEN USA 60.96 31.80 29.16 7.40 6.90 7.45 7.20 7.50 0.00 #6
3 Shizuka ARAKAWA JPN 57.98 29.30 28.68 7.50 6.80 7.20 7.15 7.20 0.00 #3
4 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 57.08 30.20 26.88 6.85 6.50 6.80 6.60 6.85 0.00 #4
5 Elena SOKOLOVA RUS 48.20 22.60 26.60 6.90 6.40 6.60 6.60 6.75 1.00 #7
6 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 44.92 23.76 23.16 5.95 5.60 5.65 6.00 5.75 2.00 #11
7 Annette DYTRT GER 44.38 22.94 21.44 5.55 5.05 5.35 5.35 5.50 0.00 #8
8 Nadege BOBILLIER FRA 38.30 19.82 18.48 4.75 4.25 4.70 4.70 4.70 0.00 #2
9 Galina EFREMENKO UKR 37.48 15.88 21.60 5.70 5.20 5.35 5.45 5.30 0.00 #1
10 Anne Sophie CALVEZ FRA 36.72 17.56 19.16 4.95 4.65 4.80 4.70 4.85 0.00 #10
11 Fleur MAXWELL LUX 34.06 15.10 18.96 4.85 4.50 4.60 4.90 4.85 0.00 #5

Ptichka · Nov 18, 2005

Hmm, so Asada is ahead of both Sasha and Shizuka. I hope this is reversed in the free. I don't care whether Sasha or Shizuka win, but I think their skating is superior to Asada's.

Frau Muller · Nov 18, 2005

Two deductions for Kimmie? Probably missed two jumps. I'm thrilled for Mao, though! WHEEEE!!!!

I'd love for Kimmie to recover & score higher in the finals BUT I'm rooting for either Japanese lady to win it all!

Doggygirl · Nov 18, 2005

Ptichka said:
Hmm, so Asada is ahead of both Sasha and Shizuka. I hope this is reversed in the free. I don't care whether Sasha or Shizuka win, but I think their skating is superior to Asada's.

Asada is ahead based on the TES. Word has it she did a 3/3, and sounds like a nice clean program. Sounds like Sasha and Shiz had some minor problems, but that usually takes something away from the overall picture. Cannot WAIT to see these.

BTW, (just in case anyone is wondering) CCTV-5 doesn't appear to have any coverage scheduled "live" but apparently their schedule shows TEB coverage on the 21st and 22nd. So hopefully we can either catch it live, or maybe by downloading videos.

DG

attyfan · Nov 18, 2005

IMO, the "hex of the over-hyped" got Kimmie.

Doggygirl · Nov 18, 2005

attyfan said:
IMO, the "hex of the over-hyped" got Kimmie.

I think you might be right Attyfan. I was "HUH??" after US Nats last year when USFSA / ABC / ESPN took her on the whirlwind to World's as a "commentator" (well, minimally). I thought to myself "here it comes."

Next she bombed (for her IMO) at Jr. Worlds.

Of course all of this could just be coincidence, but I'm really shaking my head at what her parents and coach must be thinking to allow this hyping to continue. My guess is that the pressure will simply escalate with every less than stellar performance she has. Better to keep mouth shut and save it for the ice IMO.

DG

rain · Nov 18, 2005

I'm not surprised. From all I've heard the technical is where Asada shines, is it not? I rather expect Cohen or one of the other skater to pass her in the free. But there's always the factor that she's skating under absolutely no pressure right now - few expectations, no pressure to show her stuff before the Olympics.....

On another note, I'm thrilled Rochette is so close to the medals. I dislike her short and think it actually does her a disservice, so the fact that she's a few tenths behind Arakawa is really heartening to me. I so want to see her medal and make it to the GPF.

Frau Muller · Nov 18, 2005

Rain, I'll have to respectfully disagree with you. What happened to day *is* a huge surprise. How many of us predicted 'an easy TOTAL ROMP' for Cohen in Paris? TOTAL ROMP means handily winning both phases of the event, if skating cleanly.

swannanoa54 · Nov 18, 2005

I guess I just don't belong to the "no pressure" crowd. To me, it doesn't matter if Mao's eligible for the Olympics or not. At what point do you believe any young skater wouldn't feel pressure to do their very best no matter what? Good grief, no pressure? Puh-lease. Mao wants to win this competition, doesn't she? Then she's probably feeling a little pressure to win, don't ya think?

No pressure! :rofl:

Don't make me laugh! I hate laughing. :rofl:

rain · Nov 18, 2005

Frau Muller said:
Rain, I'll have to respectfully disagree with you. What happened to day *is* a huge surprise. How many of us predicted 'an easy TOTAL ROMP' for Cohen in Paris? TOTAL ROMP means handily winning both phases of the event, if skating cleanly.

I never thought this would be a total romp for Cohen. Actually with the field as stacked as it is at this competition, I really had a tough time even picking out who was likely to medal. I always thought Cohen had a good shot at the gold, of course, but so did Arakawa, Sokolova, Rochette and Asada.

mzheng · Nov 18, 2005

I'm kind shocked that Mao beat both Cohen in SP.

I'm not shocked at her beat Cohen and Arakawa in TECS. It was the PCS, Arakawa only beat Mao by 1.32 points, and Cohen beat Mao only by 1.80? It is very clear that Judges are not willing to hand over Arakawa and Cohen the big PCS scores they are willing to hand over to the other top cat.

rain · Nov 18, 2005

realistic51 said:
I guess I just don't belong to the "no pressure" crowd. To me, it doesn't matter if Mao's eligible for the Olympics or not. At what point do you believe any young skater wouldn't feel pressure to do their very best no matter what? Good grief, no pressure? Puh-lease. Mao wants to win this competition, doesn't she? Then she's probably feeling a little pressure to win, don't ya think?

No pressure! Don't make me laugh! I hate laughing.

I would argue that it does make a huge difference that Mao is not eligible for the Olympics, also that she is skating in her first year as a senior. There aren't the expectations on her that the Olympic-eligible skaters are facing - the pressure of an entire nation, often. Some are also facing the pressure of this being their last shot at it. They want the judges to see them as a contender - where they place and how they skate is a message for later in the season.

Of course you're right that Mao wants to skate well - who doesn't? But she's in more of a try -it-out position right now as opposed to a do-or-die.

CDMM1991 · Nov 18, 2005

I think technically she can make the final if she comes fourth, but I still want Joannie to move up to the podium! She's going to have a tough time doing it though.

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