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    Year of the over-used music

    Is this the year of the over-used music or what?

    I've been distinctly disappointed watching the Grand Prix events as the Olympics approaches and seeing so many skaters from all four disciplines pulling out the been-there done-that catalogue of music, blowing the dust off of it and thinking it will make an appropriately serious Olympic statement.

    So far on my list: Kevin Van der Parren - recycling not only Yagudin's old music, but what looks like his choreography as well.

    Pang and Tong: my favorite of the Chinese pairs, but Phantom of the Opera? Yawn.

    Navka/Kostomarov - Carmen? For the love of God, why? Very likely they will win the Olympic gold medal, ice dance being what it is, but they get a thumbs down from me for a most uninspired music choice and choreography to match.

    Chait/Sahknovsky - Maybe they should get a few points just for nerve, but why oh why did they pick Bolero?

    And an honorary category - the just dump that music because it does nothing for you category:
    First in line, Joannie Rochette (who I love to death). Instrumental Madonna? Just say no.
    Next in line: the wacky stylings of Evan Lysaceck to Grease. Awful mishmash of cuts, cheesy theme.

    I'm sure I've missed a few, so feel free to add your own musical frustrations of the season.

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    In the "just dump it" category, Brian Joubert's Lord of the Dance LP. The reason Plushenko wins everything is that he presents himself as a person of substance, not a twerp. Brian must do this, too, starting with his music and choreography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    In the "just dump it" category, Brian Joubert's Lord of the Dance LP. The reason Plushenko wins everything is that he presents himself as a person of substance, not a twerp. Brian must do this, too, starting with his music and choreography.

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    Absolutely agree. Lord of the Dance comes off as music somebody else picked for him, not something he feels at all.

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    Kevin is skating to "Pirates of the Caribbean: this year. I don't think Alexei ever used it did he? If so, it was as a pro, I would think, since the music dates back to only 2003, after he retired. I think Kevin's SP is the same as last year's (isn't it?), which is his techno one- I don't think Yagudin ever used it, either. The choreography is another story- but the music hasn't been used by very many of the top singles skaters yet, (I think), although you hear it a LOT at the lower levels (and I did like Ken Rose's program last year).

    As for Joannie- I LIKE her SP music- as long as you can't use vocals, instrumental versions of pop/songs will usually sound a bit musak-y. But It's never been used before AFAIK. If one is complaining about overused music- when someone uses something a bit different and original I say more power to them. It's certainly better than another Carmen, ballet/'opera or girly tinkly piano music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus
    As for Joannie- I LIKE her SP music- as long as you can't use vocals, instrumental versions of pop/songs will usually sound a bit musak-y. But It's never been used before AFAIK. If one is complaining about overused music- when someone uses something a bit different and original I say more power to them. It's certainly better than another Carmen, ballet/'opera or girly tinkly piano music!
    Agreed...and I'm not saying that because I'm a Rochette fan either.

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    I think every Olympic season we see a lot of the same music being used...

    and every Olympic season we discuss if THIS season is the "year of over-used music" it's tradition! Goodness, I love the Olympics!

    Quote Originally Posted by rain
    Next in line: the wacky stylings of Evan Lysaceck to Grease. Awful mishmash of cuts, cheesy theme.
    He did that a couple of weeks ago
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    Cohen's Dark Eyes, skating this the 4th time
    Cohen's R&J yawn

    I know this is off topic, but Lori's music choice for Kimmie, Queen of Sheba by Respighi, Yawn, even though no one has skated to it yet

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    Chait/Sahknovsky - Maybe they should get a few points just for nerve, but why oh why did they pick Bolero?
    Delusions of grandeur?

    Sorry, but Michelle Kwan couldn't pull it off. Neither can C&S. That music belongs to Torvill and Dean, and frankly, I don't think there's any real way to improve on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julietvalcouer
    Delusions of grandeur?

    Sorry, but Michelle Kwan couldn't pull it off. Neither can C&S. That music belongs to Torvill and Dean, and frankly, I don't think there's any real way to improve on it.
    Yeah, they're not the first to try it - I remember Alexander Abt attempting Bolero a few years back as well - but it's always a case of the music choice overshadowing the skater. When I hear Bolero start up my mind immediately goes to T/D, distracting me from whoever is actually skating to it in the moment. There's an inevitable comparasin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain

    Chait/Sahknovsky - Maybe they should get a few points just for nerve, but why oh why did they pick Bolero?
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    Actually, if you watched coverage of Cup of China, Chait and Sakhnovsky have a really great program to Bolero. Other than the aborted attempt by Abt and the forgettable program by Kwan, when was the last time an elite skater or team used Bolero after T&D?

    Carmen, Alexander...overused. Could do without Takeshi's "Tosca" (And Evgeny's, if it's true he is now using that for SP).

    I think the VanDerPerren comment was regarding his short program, cuts of which are similar/same to Yagudin's SP "Racing" (Safri Duo's music).

    Sasha's Romeo and Juliet...not only is R&J quite overused in the past few years, but bonus points for being overused by HER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julietvalcouer
    Delusions of grandeur?

    Sorry, but Michelle Kwan couldn't pull it off. Neither can C&S. That music belongs to Torvill and Dean, and frankly, I don't think there's any real way to improve on it.
    I think C/S's Bolero is fabulous. T/D don't own the music.

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    Wasn't Plushenko's 2000-2001 SP "Bolero"? I seem to remember him wearing a purple costume and skating to this music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BronzeisGolden
    Wasn't Plushenko's 2000-2001 SP "Bolero"? I seem to remember him wearing a purple costume and skating to this music.
    he did skate to Bolero... but I thought it was after the 02 Olympics (then again I don't really pay attention to what/when he skates to anyway lol)

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    Navka/Kostomarov used "Bolero" for their 98/99 free dance. I love C&S's version.

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    For me Bolero is T/D I think it was a once in a lifetime culmination of perfect music, perfect choreography and a couple who felt the music perfectly, I feel the same way about G/G's Moonlight sonata interpretation. It doesn't mean that other skaters can't use it I just think that they are giving themselves a mountain to climb before they even start, it is a bit like doing a cover of a song, you have to eclipse the original by either doing something totally different or doing the same thing but *way* better, otherwise no one will remember that you did it.

    I haven't seen any of the programs this year so I can't comment on the music choices other than to say that the choice of music in an Olympic season is crucial and I think that many skaters take the 'safe' option by picking music that they know they can handle and interpret well and that the audience/judges will relate well too, it is just a shame that they cannot find some lesser used but equally good music to use.

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