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Thread: The Aged Competitive Skater

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    Question The Aged Competitive Skater

    Some skaters such as Kwan, Liashenko, Slutskaya, Nikidinov, Stoyko, Weiss (and others you can name) are hanging around in the Amateur Eligble Field. My take is that they are here because they like the competitive life and it doesn't exist in the Pro skate world. However, I also believe, there is more money in Amateur Competitive skating than there is in Pro skating nowadays. Whatever the reason, what do you think? and give some reasons

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    As long as they can do it, go for it. I see no reason to put an age restriction on them. If they have trouble because of their age they will probably quit.

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    If they aren't much progress, then they should retire. Age shouldn't be a restriction.

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    The Old Ones

    I believe the argument that most people have about the older skaters staying is that it doesn't allow for the up and comers to have their chance. I don't see the validity in this much at all. Tara Lipinski and Sarah Hughes have shown that the established veteran isn't always a lock. If biased judging were an issue and the veterans were always being held up I might have a different opinion. But, as it is, as long as the old guard can hold their own and continue to improve, I can only believe that it pushes the younger generation to be that much better. When I see Michelle and Irina consistantly skating sub-par, four triple programs and being rewarded gold over more deserving, younger skaters I'll change my mind. If the younger skaters want to be on the top of the podium they'll have to challenge themselves and realize all of their potential. That is what I love to see! A whole mess of incredibly talented athletes pushing each other ever higher!

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    I think maybe a couple should go pro.

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    aly cutie - "Maybe a couple should go pro". I was wondering if you could explain what they may do. Your answer is fine but you seem to be putting them into tough jobs associated with figure skating.

    Where are the Pro Competitions? Is SOI and COI anxious to hire them? Maybe in the chorus of a Disney show? How many rinks are looking for coaches? Do they have talent for choreographing and how long would it take to prove that? What about costume design - how many are talented enough and who would know?

    This was the point of my topic. These skaters now over 25 having spent most of their lives in cold ice rinks usually at morning before the sun rises. And now, what does going pro actually mean? There is no pension plan for them.

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    I just mean like they should turn pro and tour with SOI and stuff like that. I dunno. hehe!

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    I believe you are saying that you want them out of amateur competition and you don't care what happens to them. Is SOI desperate to hire any amateur? If not, do you care?

    Joe

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    yes i do care! I don't mind if they stay in amateur competition or not. I just mean like Sarah, she won olympics and stuff like that.
    please don't get mad at me :( sometimes I don't know how to say things right, like how I mean.

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    Hey Aly, don't let mean old Joe scare you just because he has a picture of Dick Button up there beside his name, LOL. I know exactly what you mean. I think that skaters such as Elvis Stojko, who have been great world champions in the past but who are now 30 years old, would be welcome to tour with Stars on Ice.

    But some others, like Michelle Kwan, are still at their peak and can continue to compete, hopefully for years to come.

    Congratulations on getting 50 posts so you can have your Michelle avatar!

    Mathman

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    Aly - I'm sorry. I wasn't angry with you. I am angry at the phrase: "He/she should turn pro". So many posters use that phrase and I don't really know what they mean. To me it sounds like, 'you are through. we've had enough of you.'

    If you notice in the poll, I did not mention going pro. I used the word, retire. Retire means they can do what they want, if they've made the proper plans.

    Again, Aly - I appologize.

    Joe

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    Thanks Mathman!! hehe!

    It's ok Joe. I'm sorry, I should have like read it enough to see that it was retire not turn pro. I don't always read all the posts. hehe! usually its the last couple. I'm sorry too.

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    I think if they are able to compete with the field, why retire? I think in some cases it pushes the younger ones to train harder to win.

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    Aly - I'm glad to see we're still friends.

    Joe

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    Some should definitely retire - others not

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