Article: Sale Interview about SLC, Touring, and Her Upcoming Wedding
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I completely disagree that B & S were robotic in their skating. We will have to disagree there. I think they were superior than S & P despite their mistakes. But I won't fight that battle again. It's over. But calling her "skate in the head" is outrageous, cruel etc. I am glad to see that you were quoting a comment in a book, even though it was better left in a book (the writer should be very proud of that; a real Shakespeare). I would hate to think you came up with such a mean spirited comment. Her abusive partnership was with a previous partner, not Anton who essentially rescued her from it.
I completely disagree that B & S were robotic in their skating. We will have to disagree there. I think they were superior than S & P despite their mistakes. But I won't fight that battle again. It's over. But calling her "skate in the head" is outrageous, cruel etc. I am glad to see that you were quoting a comment in a book, even though it was better left in a book (the writer should be very proud of that; a real Shakespeare). I would hate to think you came up with such a mean spirited comment. Her abusive partnership was with a previous partner, not Anton who essentially rescued her from it.
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C'mon people. That competition will be 4 years ago very soon. There was cheating among the judges. That's fact. Removing the cheating judge the score was split 2 to 2! That's fact. The two teams in question worked well together as Pros. That's fact. It's way past 'time to move on'. But if you choose to wallow in this mire, well.......
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Let me get one fact straight here at least - the Silver medals were NOT changed into Gold ones. They did show a 'making of the new gold' fluff piece, but it was from scratch, not a conversion.
As for who should have won, who deserved to win, who was better, who was cheating, heck, whether or not the spectator in row F was picking their nose... we have all long ago made up our minds. I don't know why we insist of rehashing it all, when people who don't agree with us aren't even open to the possibilities. (And I'm talking about both sides of the argument here)
As for who should have won, who deserved to win, who was better, who was cheating, heck, whether or not the spectator in row F was picking their nose... we have all long ago made up our minds. I don't know why we insist of rehashing it all, when people who don't agree with us aren't even open to the possibilities. (And I'm talking about both sides of the argument here)
One thing I always thought of is when I remember the 94 olympics and G&G won gold and they also had two minor mistakes, and the other russians got a perfect skate and they won silver. So nothing happened there. no one complained, I think here the problem was because a judge did cheat and said that, so it started the whole thing, if a judge would not have done that, it would of been the end of it and jamie and davie would have been and stay silver medalist and it would of been discussed for years still about the results like very often when two top contenders are very close. I loved them both, it was a long shot, a difficult tie, but a judge cheated and that is the main thing... not the skaters. Both of these couples were deprive of a very special moment and this story will be with them for always, at each winter olympic games we will hear about it and for years.
We had to expect this with the upcoming olympics. Just wait and see, when the olympics will be here, it will be even worse, not that I want that, I would like to enjoy the olympics without again talking about this again. its been four years, we have to move on and be proud of what is coming and give the chance and the time of the day that the other athletes deserve that are getting ready very hard for the olympics. Good luck to all of them...
We had to expect this with the upcoming olympics. Just wait and see, when the olympics will be here, it will be even worse, not that I want that, I would like to enjoy the olympics without again talking about this again. its been four years, we have to move on and be proud of what is coming and give the chance and the time of the day that the other athletes deserve that are getting ready very hard for the olympics. Good luck to all of them...
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Erica Lee said:
Becuase people will always argue about anything. It's a law of internet message boards in particular--it doesn't matter that no one will ever change anyone's mind about anything, and will remain convinced forever that they are right and the other person is wrong. It's a universal constant of the internet. People fight about EVERYTHING. Hey, at least it keeps the fighting virtual, where you can argue without worrying too much. I'm having lunch tomorrow with a friend and I know it's not safe to even bring up Sasha Cohen (we're both skaters, so skating WILL come up, until her husband can't take it any more and begs us to change the subject) because she can't STAND Sasha (as a skater, not a person) and I'm gradually coming around to, if not loving her, at least finding her more pleasant to watch. In person, that would just get ugly. On line, we can bicker to our heart's content. And about S/P versus B/S (yes, I know which partner clocked her in the head--that was the...Latvian? She was in Riga, wasn't she, and Moskvina and Sikharudlize (forgive spelling) had to smuggle her back to Russia? Again, if they want to make a movie about figure skating....) And about the 1994 ice dance results. Fans in all fandoms will argue about ANYTHING, FOREVER.
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And the beat goes on. Skating started in the Netherlands; ballet started in Italy; motion pictures started in France.curious said:Yes,I know many people here are tired of the Russian's DOMINANCE in a sport they have DOMINATED for CENTURIES lol! To call B&S's one of the most ARTISTIC pairs of all time ROBOTIC is a JOKE
Is all this so important?
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This is totally ridiculous, in my view. Duh - Sale and Pelletier originally won the silver medal at Salt Lake, then thanks to the huge bruhaha over the judging, they were awarded the gold medal. They even had a dual medal ceremony with B & S with both national anthems.
Why on earth would they want the silver? Do they honestly think they deserve two medals? Give me a break. Frankly, I've never been a fan of this team, and I think they were overrated for years in terms of artistry, but I'm not a judge, so my opinion doesn't carry any weight in these matters.
Why on earth would they want the silver? Do they honestly think they deserve two medals? Give me a break. Frankly, I've never been a fan of this team, and I think they were overrated for years in terms of artistry, but I'm not a judge, so my opinion doesn't carry any weight in these matters.
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Jamie sure wanted that gold medal in 02. Did anyone else notice she kept saying 'I' as if she skated alone that night as in "I had a gold-medal performance that night."? If I remeber correctly David Pellitier (sp?) was skating with her that night. To me, it seems a bit selfish for her to say that she wants THEIR silver medals back, after all that trouble the skating federations and Olympic Committees went through to get her and David those gold medals. You either want the gold medal or you don't. 
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curious said:Yes,I know many people here are tired of the Russian's DOMINANCE in a sport they have DOMINATED for CENTURIES lol! To call B&S's one of the most ARTISTIC pairs of all time ROBOTIC is a JOKE
Funny, I didn't notice it was the 2060s already....
Check your facts, dear, the Russians weren't even a factor until the 1960s, and even then for the longest time it was ONLY in pairs. And they only got to be dominant in any sport because the Soviet system made machines out of their athletes. The Chinese are doing the same thing, except they noticed that people like skaters with personalities you can see.
Flailing one's arms and looking serious/constipated does not make one artistic. Watching an 'up-and-coming' Russian pair in the NHK short today, who haven't had time to get any real polish on what they're immitating, made that point fairly clear. (Not a spoiler, I'm not saying where they stand. In fact I can't remember exactly anyway.) The Russians better enjoy 2006 because the future is coming in pairs, and it's a red dragon.
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SkateFan4Life said:
I agree with you wholeheartedly. As I said they have won many competions or programs with a major error, or more, where Berezhnaya/Sikhardlidze have skated cleanly. That is rare for very evenly matched competitiors, but when that happens to them it is an overblown scandal. I also find their artistry overrated, their positions are not near as beautiful as Elena and Anton, and their flow over the ice is not as good. Their interpretation and on-ice character is very one-dimensional, romance is the only thing they pull off well, and it more forced and structured, than the more natural and fresh romance of say Gordeeva/Grinkov. Their throws are not as big as the Russians or Chinese, he side by side jumps are tiny which makes them poorly matched as well, and alot of times their choreography is basic compared to Berezhnaya/Sikharlidze or even the current programs of Shen/Zhou.
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the only people who said they wanted both medals.. were people responding to this article on message boards...
Jamie said she felt more connected to her silver medal because it was hers. She earned it. the other one was given to her because of a scandal. She didn't necceserily earn it. She "inherited" it.
Don't go re-writing her words just because you don't like the outcome of a 4 year old competition.
Jamie said she felt more connected to her silver medal because it was hers. She earned it. the other one was given to her because of a scandal. She didn't necceserily earn it. She "inherited" it.
Don't go re-writing her words just because you don't like the outcome of a 4 year old competition.
Maybe people were just misinformed. After all, the title of the thread is, "Sale wants the SLC silver medal back."Tonichelle said:
If the information is wrong, can't the mods work with the person who started the thread to change the title, preferably early on before "forum rumors" get started?
In any case, GS mods :agree:
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Tonichelle said:
Oh please, if they didnt want the gold medal as well they would have stated so rather than saying how excited they were to be getting the 2nd gold medal at the time.
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