That picture of her was so disturbing and looked so unnatural!Originally Posted by bronxgirl
I've only seen Sasha this year in pictures - I think there was one from Capbells in particular that I saw and was immediately disturbed by. Sasha looks to have a naturally tiny body-type, but, at this point, I think she looks TOO thin. Of course, I have no idea whether or not she's got a problem, but she looks thinner than last year, IMO.
I've been looking at pictures of Sasha and she looked thinner in 2003 Nats than 2005 Nats. Looking at podium pictures mainly to do some comparisons in the same kind of poses. Jenny Kirk was thinner than Sasha. Here is a picture from 2005 COI when she and the other women aren't wearing much.
http://www.sashafans.com/media/galle...coi/adeff1.jpg
She doesn't look too thin there with some great abs.
She has lost weight since then. People think eating issues but there are other conditions that can cause weight loss as well. She may just want to be thinner for the jumps. Who knows. I guess we'll see her at Marshall's this weekend and people can comment more.
Last edited by LBC; 12-09-2005 at 04:08 PM.
Sasha looked in better shape when she was touring with COI. Once she is back to prepare the competitions, she suddenly looks too thin. I guess she must have trained very hard. A few pounds lighter definitely make all the triple jumps easier.
You want to talk thin....talk about Qing Pang
Poor Girl.......................looking like a stick-figure to the great buff Jian Tong
YES. And Svetlana Khorkina the gymnast. Now THAT is thin. I just have toat people calling Sasha thin. Boy, y'all don't know what THIN is...
Yes, I believe Cohen has slimmed down. But not to the point of no return.
Last edited by R.D.; 12-09-2005 at 04:16 PM.
Well, according to ppl who saw her early in season in person. That's exactly what the words Sasha was described. "As thin as Qing Pang.".....personally I don't think either is too thin if they are not skaters.....but I do realize as a skater especially single skater, you do need some musel to pull up your jump. And the injury at joints are much more easy to occure with the quick lose of body water at these earea.....Look at Sasha's jumps this season, bearly lift off the ice.
When I saw Sasha Cohen at TEB she looked just fine
Thanks for the confirmation. Talk about freaking out
What would make her spins slower relative to a possible "unhealthy" thinness is that spins require the most energy and strength. Don't listen to me. Dick Button has been saying it forever.
If she has too little muscle mass and is eating too little, her body wouldn't have the strength to maintain the speed and positions of the spins. But it's not just the spins. She's slower in general. At TEB she said she missed that last 3sal because she was "way behind the music" and rushed the jump.
Why wouldn't being overly thin affect jumps? They lost only a few 10ths of a second. An overly thin body can handle that--at least for a while.
As for what she eats, check out her journal: No fat; super lean meat; lettuce, carrots. No carbs whatsoever.
Example of a verified account of anorexia in a ladies figure skater:
Someone mentioned Midori Ito at '96 Worlds. Remember the "anemia" the JF said Midori had? It was reported a couple of years later that Midori had had anoexia since about '96.
http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/%7Esports/la...rs/otl-fs.html
Midori is Back!
Midori Itoh skated before a crowd of 1500 spectators on Apr. 26 at the Shin-Yokohama PH Skate Center. It was feared that she may not be able to perform at a professional level, after her retirement from amateur status in November 1996. She was hospitalized from time to time for anorexia. So her return to skating is a big relief to fans. Although she did show off the triple axel jump she is renowned for, she did do a simpler form of a triple jump. The ice skating show continued until May 5.
Midori Ito will not perform in Nagano
Japan's greatest figure skating champion spoke before the press on Nov. 29, 1996, that she is retiring. This is actually her 2nd time to leave amateur status. Ito returned to amateur competitions in 1995. This move was aimed to bring up the Olympics spirit for Nagano in 1998.
Ito won the Japan championship for the 9th time this year, but was unable to perform well afterwards. She's been rumored to have been hospitalized a number of times due to too much dieting. Ito said to the press that she practiced her new routine for this season from September. She has discovered though that her body has lost the agility and energy that she was known for.
Some of you know my background in this area, 25 years worth of counselfing dancers, skaters, and other "movers who must maintain an exceptionally low body weight." Very true. I had a ballet class friend who had trouble eating enough. She had to keep a jar of peanut butter with her at all times in case rehearsals ran long. An anorexic modern dance friend who was 5'6" and weight 80 LB., whose parents were nutritionists, also had to go around with a jar of peanute butter, but in her case it was so she wouldn't die. Oh, joy! Most of use would say. What did she say, "It's disgusting. Being forced to stuff food in your face!" This was after a tablespoon of peanut butter.
Thanks everyone for being so civilized. At least so far--seems like about p5 of these threads, the gloves come off. But great so far!
Maybe tomorrow I'll post technical and research stuff. Maybe.
Rgirl
I hope that Sasha has some of the best physiologists / dieticians on her team to help her determine her omptimal physiology for this sport. She is petite (as an EXTREMELY general categorization), as many top figure skaters are. I'm betting her body fat % is far lower than most if not all of us couch potatoes, as are most if not all elite athletes, regardless of the sport. I would also bet that other aspects of her physiology lend themselves to her success in this sport.
I respect posts from those who back themselves up with details (i.e. lean muscle mass v. fat%), etc. I am equally concerned (as RGirl, thread originator was, who has always backed up her posts on subjects like this with facts) that this will turn into "Sasha Has An Eating Disorder!" or "Sasha Is Fat as a Cow!" or "Sasha is skinny but just fine!" or "If Sasha wins who cares!" None of those off the cuff reactions contributes, IMO, to a meaningful discussion of this topic.
I will assume that Sasha has the very best people available to advise her, and whether she takes there advice or not, I will never know. Over and Out.
DG
I don't think Sasha is too thin for skating as long as she has the stamina for her training. I think a lot of her body is HOW she is built.
I am a little concerned about whether her body fat percentage is so low that she could have no periods. Which means she is not ovulating. That is important for women because it robs their estrogen levels and affects having brittle bones or being able to have children later in life.
But then, I am sure that is (hopefully) a concern among all the top women skaters.
I think that Golden Skate should add a different feature to this forum! That way all the posters out there with backgrounds in medicine can express their views on the skaters and diagnose them. Then fans won't have to worry if skaters are having their monthly cycles or not.
Given a pound or two either way, I think Sasha looks the same as she did in 2000. Of couse I mean her weight. However, I think her overall looks went from doll face to mature beauty. JMO
Joe
If this in fact an accurate depiction of her diet it is PROFOUNDLY unhealthy. I cannot say she has an eating disorder, but if that's true her eating is disordered. Total lack of fat is NOT healthy and will eventually make you very ill. Frankly I don't think I could function as an athlete/dancer without carbs, myself. Not to mention when I don't get fruits (which are full of carbs) or high-fiber grain my digestive system pitches a fit. My body does not want lean protein when I've been practicing for three hours in a 35-degree rink (as I did this morning.) It wants carbs it can convert to energy and it wants them now. A senior-level skater trains HOW many hours, how much harder, than a pre-Bronze dancer? You have to fuel your body if you want it to perform. With her diet, I would also be concerned just on nutritional, rather than weight, grounds. It is very, very hard to get the right balance of nutrients by cutting out entire food groups. Grazing on small amounts of everything is much better for you.As for what she eats, check out her journal: No fat; super lean meat; lettuce, carrots. No carbs whatsoever.
I do think she is naturally slim. Without knowing her exact height, weight, percentage of body fat, and her medical history, I have no idea if she is TOO thin. I think she looks unappealingly thin, but my own figure is 36-28-36 and as such I am probably biased against boyish frames on women. I would hope her mother and her coach are keeping tabs on her for any signs that she has taken the thin thing too far (and I really hope neither is aiding and abetting her if she does have a problem.)
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