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Thread: World title, Sarah Hughes?

  1. #31
    sk8ing lady2001
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    Re: World title, Sarah Hughes?


    Yes, of course, she will.

  2. #32
    eltamina
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    Re: World title, Sarah Hughes?


    I am sure some are Michelle fans, and some are not.

    I think Maria Bute made a very strong statement about little 15 year old girls not being mature enough.... ? I forgot the exact quote, maybe that was lost in translation. BTW, I love Maria, I wish her success as a pro, and SAFETY, no car bombs etc, I am serious

    If we go back to GS history shortly after Olys 02, I am sure we know who was most bitter about Sarah (actually, she is equally bitter about Michelle)

    When Michelle won worlds at 15, there were gripes about her age too. There are people who still haven't forgiven her for beating Lulu.

    Back to topic, Sarah achieved her goal, now she has some different goals.

  3. #33
    Pather2000
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    <em>Sarah's Skating performance & she herself will go down in the history books has one of the best Jumps (from 4th to 1st) ever. In Female Skating History. But, she is not a an Olympic Legend. She has only one title & her GOLD was GIVEN to her By not 1 or 2 But, 3 Skaters who was ahead of her who let the better get the best of them.
    If anyone of them had skated with a clean program( Even a lackluster performance) still would have beaten her.

    She is not a Legend. But she is in the history books with that great comeback. Legend Status is usually for people who have more than one title & Many different title & for people who have been WINNING(not 2nd or 3rd) for many many years. & Also, for people who once they reach the top, to see how long they continue to stay there being #1. The Yankees are a Legendery team because, they have won so many Championships. Not, because, they finished 2nd or 3rd or got knocked out of the playoffs.

    She will have the title of An Olympic Champion forever. Legend, No way. Unless, she comes back & the skates of her life winning everything in site for the next 3 or 4 years. Inlcuding another Olympic Gold </em>

  4. #34
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    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sarah's Skating performance & she herself will go down in the history books has one of the best Jumps (from 4th to 1st) ever. In Female Skating History. But, she is not a an Olympic Legend. [/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing. Sarah is no Olympic legend although her name is in the book of Olympic champs.

    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Unless, she comes back & the skates of her life winning everything in site for the next 3 or 4 years. Inlcuding another Olympic Gold [/quote]

    I agree she would have to win Nats and Worlds for at least a couple of years but I don't think it will have to include another Olympic gold. However is she doesn't win anything but comes back and when another Olympic gold then I will have to give in and agree that she will be in the book of 'greats'.

  5. #35
    Joesitz
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    Sorry rGirl - Anomoly just won't do it for me regarding the last 3 Oly champs. I can see many more teenagers win Oly gold in the future especially those who smile like crazy and land a quad. And this will happen!! They are so cute. How can you not give them the blue ribbon?

    IMO, a young girl blossoms at 18 has had some experience in the real world and it begins to show up in her performance.

    Without going into personalities, imo, one of the three could develop a strong skate if interest is still there; one other continues to be cute even at 20; and the third we just don't know yet.

    As one poster mentioned that flapping swan wings; skating in a daze because lover is about to be killed; or stabbing oneself because of unrequited love - just doesn't get me excited especially when compared to the on stage originals. What is wrong with an original figure skate?

    But hey, figure skating is a subjective sport.

    Joe

  6. #36
    scuttlebutt99
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    Olympic Gold


    Joesitz:

    In addition to being “cute children with a lot of luck” , they also happened to be highly skilled and talented to be able to beat the greatest skater of all times on the most pressured event of all competitions. Apart from the skating skills which were evident, there is justified admiration deserving upon “children” who can muster the absolute best they are capable of under the glaring light of such a massive audience the Olympics attracts.

    Being capable of such grit and toughness in and of itself is a worthy accomplishment which is deserving of the gold medal, which every Olympian vies for.
    Olympic Gold medallists will always be remembered because they are part of history, irrespective of their other achievements. There are only seven ladies Olympic Gold medallists in the U.S. thus far and each gold medallist is worthy of the title they earned.





  7. #37
    IceCastles1814
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    I disagree about Sarah not being an Olympic legend. I think it depends on how you think of legend. People will think of how she won the OGM. That in it self is a "story legend" of the Olympics. That's what I refer to when I say legend. Coming from 4th to 1st is quite a feat and it fits in perfectly with Olympic history.

  8. #38
    Tenorguy
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    Sarah a legend?


    Hmmmmm -

    Here's my 2 cents: What constitutes a 'legend'? Is that word not completely objective? Who qualifies? Is longevity the baseline? Or quality? I think the we've all been trained to throw up superlatives where superlatives are not deserved - how many times has the public been told that so and so TV actor is a legend?

    For me Sarah accomplished so much as a human being - setting her goal and accomplishing it. I must admit to a certain chagrin and sadness that responsible adults would count this young woman's moment so lightly.

    She transcended her weaknesses, grasped her core strength, caught the moment, maximized her skill, stepped into the circle, enjoyed herself, interpreted Ravel, and flew. She embodied the whole Olympic ideal for me; even overcoming my cynical and world-weary distrust in the validity of organized sports.

    Isn't that what we would all wish we could do - do the very best we could in the moment?

    If you were her parent, would you not still be brimming with pride and joy?

    Frankly I like and respect Sarah more than 2 time OGM Ms. Witt.

  9. #39
    Tenorguy
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    Subjective, not objective!


    Re: my previous post ....

    Determining a legend is completely subjective, not objective! I trust you knew what I meant....

    Not 3 minutes after finishing my first post, I heard something on Access Hollywood touting Soupy Sales as a legend in the TV-land firmament ......

    Oy vey.

  10. #40
    Ladskater
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    I think Sarah is Great - for just being "true to herself."


    Ladskater

  11. #41
    Joesitz
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    Tenorguy - I think tossing around the legend word is done so as a publicity thing. It's like the use of "Diva" which is solely for a limited number of Opera singers but now has been transcended to the Pop singers and picked up by Katerina Witt for publicity purposes.

    In figure skating, there is no question that Sonia Henie is legendary as is Dick Button.

    Joe

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    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In figure skating, there is no question that Sonia Henie is legendary as is Dick Button.[/quote]

    No doubt. For current eligible skaters, Legend or not, we should wait 20 years let the history speek itself.

    How you defined the word 'Legend'?
    I think a more proper word might be 'Great'? That definitely not.

  13. #43
    Jaana
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    Sonja Henia definetely is a universal legend, but Dick Button? I don´t think that he is any legend for e.g. Europeans? What about Asia? Actually I had never even heard of him before I got Internet and read skating fans´ comments about his commentary, LOL. His Olympic gold medals he won before I started to watch figure skating (the same with Sonja Henie of course, LOL), and besides I only got interested in men´s skating when John Curry appeared on the scene...

    Marjaana

  14. #44
    dlksk8fan
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    Dick Button not a legend? Here is a little history on Mr Button.
    Born in 1930 his first skating teacher told him that "hell would freeze over" before he bacame a real skater. He went on to become U.S., World and Olympic Champion working with Gustav Lussi who was a disciplinary in school figures. Mr Button performed the first flying camel and for many years it was called the Button Camel.

    He won a European gold medal in Prague, Czechoslovakia in 1948. After that year skaters only form European counties were allowed to compete at this event.

    In 1949 Button became the first figure skater to receive the James E Sullivan Award, he most prestigious honor in amateur U.S. sports.

    At the 1951 World Championships he became the first skater to perform a double axel and a double loop combination jump. At the 1952 Olympics he performed a triple loop.

    He was one of the youngest Olympic Champions at the age of 18.

    He has seven national titles
    He has 6 world medals (5 gold one silver)
    He has won 2 Olympic gold medals


    He was inducted into the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame in 1976

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    Then could we say that Sonja Henia is known by general US public only because of Her advantures in Hoolywood?

    I was from China, I heard nothing about Sonja Henia, but I knew Pegy Fleming before I came to state. And I heard nothing about John Curry before I came to internet.

    IMO, the Legend dose not decided by where general fan live, heard. It is skating history decide who is the legend or not. Dick B. certainly IS. So is Sonja Henia.

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