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Thread: Michelle's Proof-of-Recovery Skate, Jan 16

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    Test Skate?

    IIRC, Nancy Kerrigan and Jenni Meno/Todd Sand had to prove they could skate before officially being named to the Olympic team in 94 and 98, respectively. So, it's not unusual that Michelle would have to do the same.

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    According to the document that Sylvia posted on this thread, USFS medical personnel must examine the skater after the skater petitions to determine if the bye should be granted, and then again before 16 January to confirm that the skater is healthy enough to be named to the team. That doesn't preclude, however, a doctor watching a test skate.

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    Phil Hersh weighs in -- and he says she will be monitored, but doesn't say anything about a specific "back on the ice" skate -- but if Nancy got one, it wouldn't surprise me if Michelle's "she's back" skate would be televised too.

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    I'm not so sure a "proof skate" by Kwan would be televised. The only reason why Nancy's was televised was because of the "whack," which was a huge story not only in sports news but regular news. This is not the case with Kwan. She's asking for a bye and perhaps having to do a "proof skate" because she was injured due to practicing, which is not National/Regular news.

    I think if Kwan does have to skate to prove she can compete in Turin it'll be done privately with the necessary "judges" there, and maybe with limited media. But I don't think it'll be televised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleflutz
    ...after all, at Marshall's she didn't complete a single clean triple, they were all doubled, flutzed, under-rotated or two footed.
    At least, she didn't claim to be in perfect health and yet just splat from nowhere at the end of her program.

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    This is going to be tricky. Kwan can't jump again until 13 January. USFS said it was going to announce the team on 14 January. 16 January is the deadline for the USFS medical people to certify a skater's health, if the skater has requested a bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frau Muller
    So all she has to do is prove that she's fit enough to give interviews & do endoresements????!!!!!
    you are hilarious!

    OFF TOPIC: will you please get a job with ABC/ESPN and do commentary?!

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    Judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Piel
    I think the U.S.F.S.A. probably makes up the criteria as they go along to get the team they want.
    You are right & in the past they have done it just by controlling the judging. They will really love not having to deal with the middlemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan228
    This is going to be tricky. Kwan can't jump again until 13 January. USFS said it was going to announce the team on 14 January. 16 January is the deadline for the USFS medical people to certify a skater's health, if the skater has requested a bye.
    Are you sure? I thought that the Jan 16 date was to get a medical statement, not that she was healthy as of that date, but that she would be healthy as of Olys. I also thought that the USFSA didn't have to give the final list of names for Olys until
    Jan 30, but I am unsure if this would be the final team or if this would include alternates (so Michelle could withdraw after Jan 30 and let the alternate go).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleflutz
    is a bye fair?
    In 91, Jill Trenary asked for a bye and in 96, Nicole Bobek asked for a bye, both times because of a slow recovery from an injury, and both times the answer was no.
    Good point.
    Quote Originally Posted by tripleflutz
    .... I don't want her to go out with a very poor performance in front of the whole world, that would be really sad. So if she can skate then thats one thing, but if she's not able to perform at an acceptable level, then its better if they don't send her to Turino.
    I completely agree. What a sad way to see her eligible career end. (unless, of course, she's planning to stay in until Vancouver!)

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    proof?

    No 6.0 then I won't go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyfan
    Are you sure? I thought that the Jan 16 date was to get a medical statement, not that she was healthy as of that date, but that she would be healthy as of Olys. I also thought that the USFSA didn't have to give the final list of names for Olys until
    Jan 30, but I am unsure if this would be the final team or if this would include alternates (so Michelle could withdraw after Jan 30 and let the alternate go).
    They don't have to give the final list until 30 January, but they said in the .pdf file that they intend to name the team on the 14th. She doesn't have to be healthy as of medical exam, but it's hard to imagine that they could say that she'll be healthy and competitive a little over a month later, if she has only been jumping for two days when the determination is made. A groin injury is one of the trickier injuries to gauge.

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    I don't think Michelle has anything to be "sad" about, career-wise. Many athletes keep competing that "one last time", even perhaps past their prime....ex. Brian Boitano, Kurt Browning......and still maintain dignity with the knowledge that they had one incredible run......

    As for another skater getting "bumped" off the Oly team......they probably wouldn't be on the team even if Michelle competed....her position as one of the "top three" pretty much a lock. This way, some lucky gal gets a bronze medal she wouldn't have other wise gotten............... 42

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrmsk8ngnutt
    IIRC, Nancy Kerrigan and Jenni Meno/Todd Sand had to prove they could skate before officially being named to the Olympic team in 94 and 98, respectively. So, it's not unusual that Michelle would have to do the same.

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    Yep, they did. And Michelle should have to prove she's ready. But if the date is January 16 (hmm, happens to be my birthday ) I don't see how she could be ready then when Nationals was basically two days before that and she couldn't skate then. People might question why she could be fit on the 16th, but not on the 12th-14th. We'll see how it all plays out. I'm not totally surprised she withdrew, but I am surprised that's it's a new injury. And when she says she hadn't jumped at all since December 17 (did I read that correctly), it makes me wonder about her fitness level.

    I didn't know that Jill Trenary petitioned in 1991. I knew she was injured, but I wasn't aware of a petiton. Funny, that was the year Kristi, Tonya and Nancy swept the Worlds podium without Jill there.

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    Many feel that Bobek didn't get the 'by' because she toured with Nutcracker on Ice while injured. The USFSA was essentially telling her that she should've placed her health and USFSA career over a tour.

    Don't forget, Todd also got a by in 1992 based upon his past accomplishments.

    I'm sure Michelle will evalulate what is best for herself and team USA. I don't think that she'll go if she doesn't think that she can compete well. I do feel for the bronze medalist since it would be wisest for them to continue training until the very last moment in case MK's body becomes re-injured (and assuming she does get the 'by')

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