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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog
    virtual lock? You've got to be kidding.

    Forgot the Japanese ladies- Suguri, Ando, Arakawa? MK if she goes? Other potential "dark horses"? At least if Irina pulls out I'd say Cohen has a CHANCE at gold. But with her in, Irina is going to be real tough to beat.
    ITA, RedDog. Sasha most definitely would NOT have a lock on the gold medal, should Irina not compete in Torino. All of the Japanese ladies must be considered as potential gold medalists, even if they might be considered as longshots for the gold. Sasha still hasn't proved that she can stay on her feet and skate a clean long program when it really, really counts. She has finished second to Michelle Kwan at numerous US Nationals, and she finished second at the last two Worlds. Certainly, winning silver is nothing to be ashamed of; however, it seems to show that Cohen cannot yet handle the pressure of skating to win a title. She might do a lot better if she goes to the Olympics as an underdog and not expected by the media, her fans, and the general public, as the gold medal favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by new_europe2006


    I think there's a good chance that Sasha may not end up on the podium in Turin.
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    So true; all she has to do is fall once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shdotz
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    So true; all she has to do is fall once.

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    Absolutely. And if she falls once, especially in the short program, and everyone else skates a clean short, she may be out of the medals.

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    Right now my likely podium would be Slutskaya, Arakawa, and Cohen, possably in that order. A big mistake by Cohen could easily put her out though. Suguri, Kwan(if she goes and is somehow relatively fit and healthy), and Kostner(remember home crowd should spur her on, and maybe the judges on a bit too)
    are all possable contenders. As a Canadian I would love to say Rochette could be a sleeper but I doubt it after seeing how fails to big in too big of scores from international judges even for fairly solid efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slutskayafan21
    Right now my likely podium would be Slutskaya, Arakawa, and Cohen, possably in that order. A big mistake by Cohen could easily put her out though. Suguri, Kwan(if she goes and is somehow relatively fit and healthy), and Kostner(remember home crowd should spur her on, and maybe the judges on a bit too)
    are all possable contenders. As a Canadian I would love to say Rochette could be a sleeper but I doubt it after seeing how fails to big in too big of scores from international judges even for fairly solid efforts.
    Rochette isn't consistent, unfortunately. I can't see her winning at medal at the Olympics. Sorry.

    Your picks of Slutskaya, Arakawa, and Cohen could be correct. We will all soon see what happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shdotz
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    So true; all she has to do is fall once.

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    Unless she's Jeff, then she can fall twice and still win a medal.

    I don't think that COP is as hard on falls as the old system. Even if she falls once, she can get into the mindset of rallying to get as many points on all of her other elements as possible and wind up in the medals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan4Life
    Rochette isn't consistent, unfortunately. I can't see her winning at medal at the Olympics. Sorry.

    Your picks of Slutskaya, Arakawa, and Cohen could be correct. We will all soon see what happens!
    I admitted I couldnt pick Rochette, even as a dark horse. I said I would love to, not that I did. Even with pretty clean skates like Eric Bompard the judges are not too moved by her on the international level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan4Life
    Absolutely. And if she falls once, especially in the short program, and everyone else skates a clean short, she may be out of the medals.
    To be quite honest, I don't think it's THAT bleak. Sure, she might lose a few points here and there, but I think the possibility of a "holding up" is pretty likely, given that she's the world silver medallist.

    A choke by Cohen may put her in 2nd or 3rd place. But IMO it would take a real meltdown to not be on the podium. It would truly be her undoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog
    To be quite honest, I don't think it's THAT bleak. Sure, she might lose a few points here and there, but I think the possibility of a "holding up" is pretty likely, given that she's the world silver medallist.

    A choke by Cohen may put her in 2nd or 3rd place. But IMO it would take a real meltdown to not be on the podium. It would truly be her undoing.
    Yeah I have a feeling in the international judges minds right now Slutskaya is clearly #1, and Cohen clearly #2. Arakawa had a chance to re-assert herself closer to them but blew it by missing the GP final. Kwan has fallen further behidn missing the GP series, and Suguri has lost more ground with another dissapointing GP series and missing the final again herself. Kostner has done little to establish her World bronze last year was not a flukish result.

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