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I thought it was a hoot and enjoyed it so much that I taped it and watched it again today. What fun to see Dorothy, Scott, Lloyd, Kurt, and Jenny........all among my favs.......... I'll watch again next week..........42
Wow, that surprises me and makes me laugh (a guilty laugh since I watched Lost!!!). I thought, though, that I was taping the skating...turns out I wasn't
Originally Posted by Teenes
I watched a few of the performances from the televised “Skating with Celebrities” last night. It was pretty amazing that some of these “celebrities” had only one month to pull together a pairs routine. Granted, sometimes the skating was a bit rocky, and the moves were pretty basic, but I salute the adventuresome spirit shown in all of the skaters that created these programs. Nice job to one and all. The audience was very enthusiastic, and the set was very jazzy and attractive.
However, I was less than impressed with one of the celebrity judges. The three judges, John Nicks, Dorothy Hamill, and another guy, each gave their assessments, orally, after the performances, and they followed this with numeric scores. John Nicks came across as a crusty, old fuddy-duddy, totally lacking in humor and graciousness. He pointed at one of the men and said to him, “I expected you to fall throughout the program”, and to another he said, “Skating consists of artistry and athleticism. You have absolutely no artistry”. It got to the point where Dorothy interjected, “Hey, John, you forget that this is entertainment. It’s not the Olympics!” Dorothy was gracious in her verbal assessments. She said to one of the men (who, admittedly, did look as though he was trying very hard not to splatter on the ice), “I can tell that the ice isn’t your most comfortable environment, but I thought you did a good job.”
I can’t imagine training with a curmudgeon such as John Nicks. I wonder if he acts this way with Sasha Cohen and his other students?:sheesh:
Oh yes, he did say something nice to Tai Babilonia. He told her, “You are still one of the best skaters in the world.” Could this possibly be because Tai was one of his star pupils, and he coached her and Randy Gardner to five US titles, two World bronze medals, and one World title??
Of course, there's the possibility that Nicks was the designated "tough guy" and was playing the role of critic. Perhaps the producers of this show felt that they had to interject some realism into the judging - some sense of reality - and had Nicks make the kind of criticism that a coach might make to a student.
On the other hand, this "competition" was hardly a real-world event. Please. It was entertaining, and I look forward to future broadcasts of this type.
Loved the show, think Lloyd got cheated he had a better program. And Nicks saying he expected more only because he's a stronger skater was just wrong. What was he suppose to do, headbangers, the fly high say goodbye moves?
Not on the first show.
John and his partner were great, but she has skated before.
Bruce Jenner was just awful looked like a wind up toy, hope they get voted off next week. Dave and Nancy didn't like their skating either. Give Dave a for grinding off his toe picks, now that was funny.
I love Kurt but think he only got on the show because of Scott. After all he never skated pairs, but was fun to watch.
Hope it comes down to Lloyd and John, IMO they are the best ones on the show.
Jillian skated for several years - she mentioned that she stopped skating at age 13. I think she was the only celeb to do a one footed spin. Dave might have, too, but not as good as hers.
Todd was the one who had the most problems standing up. However, I thought their routine Will Smith's Wild Wild West was fun.
Actually, all the numbers were fun. They had some great choreographers to work with, too.
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I actually think Deborah Gibson might have done a one-foot spin as well.
Originally Posted by heyang
Having been involved with the sport for twenty years, I would agree with these comments.
Originally Posted by Kwanford Wife
After Salt Lake 2002, the television skating audience decreased by half and the enrollment of new skaters in the sport has decreased by a third.
Keep it a real sport!
One way to have done this would have been to have a legitimate judging panel of qualified judges such as Jane Doe, John Smith and Mrs Jones from the Mid-West. This would have made it reality TV instead of boring us with the self serving has beens who are currently on the panel.
Forget the Fox Fantasy and watch the Olympics on NBC!
Thank you! Skating fans are so hungry for ANYTHING televised that we're willing to settle for less ... this show is a joke and makes skating look silly. I'd rather watch All My Children on soapnet and wait for real competitions than watch Todd Bridges shake his groove thang on the telly, but that's just me. The scary part is that the ratings were actually good... But then, so are the ratings for The Bachelor: Paris...
Originally Posted by bems
Teenes, thanks for the information about television ratings. That's very interesting.
I just thought of a way to make this show better. The problem is, no one has ever heard of any of these celebrities. So send them all home and hire a new celebrity cast, featuring some bigger names.
I would suggest: Kritsti Yamaguchi, Kyoko Ina, Todd Sand, Randy Gardner, Isabelle Brasseur and Paul Wylie.
Then they could skate, respectively, with Kurt Browning, John Zimmerman, Jenny Meno, Tai Babilonia, Lloyd Eisler and Nancy Kerrigan.
MM, to really be consistent you should replace Browning with Galindo!
I enjoyed it..though I know it is corny, etc. It is really no worse than some of the shows that aired during the "boom." It is such a kick to see Tai skate--I think it is a testament to her skills as as partner that she really seemed to work with Bruce and tried to make him look better. He was creaky--but since he had only a month to come from zilch, it could have been much much worse. Actually, all of the celebs did stay on their feet which I think shows they did put in a LOT of work.
I do think they should have recruited all their celebs from the "never skated" ranks. Jillian has too much experience to be there, IMHO. John seemed to find her pushiness a little tiresome! He may have to suffer for the sake of his "edge" in this race!
I liked Mr. Nicks and I never mind seeing Dorothy (see my screen name!). Mark Lund is a bit of a trial.
Now if they could just get skaters to choose up teams and have a softball competition in Central Park, that would get me over to the park.
Suggestion - If they want to escalate the ratings, they should bring in the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Elton John, Mick Jagger, and Paul McCartney. They could pair these guys with Kristi Yamaguchi, Yuka Sato, Tai Babilonia, Jamie Sele, and Katia Gordeeva. These ladies have all skated pairs at some portion of their wonderful skating careers, in some cases throughout their entire skating careers, so they would be excellent partners.
Book Radio City Music Hall, call the program "Rock on Ice", and have all proceeds funnelled to the skaters' and rock stars' favorite charties.
Judges? Dick Button, Tracy Wilson, Robin Cousins, and Sara Karahawa.
OK, this will never happen. It's a cheery thought, however.