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Thread: Is Johnny skating for USA or Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyfan
    I thought it was reported that Michelle wore Rafael's "Russia" jacket during her test skate. No one thought it was "unpatriotic" or "undiplomatic" for her.

    That's because Kwan's special (ducking)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piel
    That's because Kwan's special (ducking)

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    it was a luck thing for kwan

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    I think it's wrong, because Johnny is at the Olympics to compete for Team USA. At other events there may be emphasis on individuals competing for medals, but the spirit of the modern Olympics has always been athletes competing for their countries. To make an analogy- I'm a huge baseball fan too, and if Chipper Jones showed up to batting practice wearing a throwback Yankees jersey or hat it would be not cool- not just because the Yankees are another team, but because they are a rival team who are always predicted to win. There's a difference between wearing another team's stuff in your off time and wearing when you're actually at an event.

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    The Olympics is *supposed* to be about good sportsmanship as well, so I think he is wearing the old soviet thing 1) b/c its cool and he is cool and 2) to show his appreciation for his Russian counterparts in the sport - not with communists or Stalin.

    Also, to people who are against Johnny's "freedom of expression" - it's kind of ironic isn't it?

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    I'm not 'for it' either, but it's not like this is the first time he's worn the darn thing... and at this point it's not something I'm going to rant about

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    Personally, I wish he wouldn't do it. I know it's a fad to wear Soviet Era memorabilia, and I just take as a fact of life (much as I may disagree with it). Several of our friends, who are from Russia just like us, cringe when their teen children start wearing this stuff (some fight it, others pray it passes). Though I'd expect this kind of thing from a teenager rather than a young man.

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    It's a fact of life that among certain sets, skinhead attire and swastikas are en vogue. The Soviet Union was no better (and in many respects was worse) than Nazi Germany. Someone ought to give these brats a history lesson. (I am Polish and Ukrainian, and have relatives who escaped Ukraine a couple steps ahead of engineered famines. Thinking Soviet memorabilia is chic is moronic.)

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    Juliet, I don't want to turn it into a political discussion, but I would like to point out one major (IMHO) difference. The ideas that USSR was founded were on paper sound principles. Indeed, the communist ideal is something that I think it is almost human nature to aspire to. The problem, of course, is how this ideal was implemented from day 1 (with much cruelty, lying, etc.). The nazi idea, OTOH, was a rather evil even in its pure theoretical form.

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    Communism works well only in small communities where the people enter into the system voluntarily, as in a convent or kibbutz. On the larger scale it simply doesn't work well because people are forced to share and some will inevitably rebel.

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    Well, Johnny marched in the Oly opening ceremonies wearing the U.S.A apparel....I'm sure someone will have some kind of comment to make even about that....

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    Good Work, Johnny!!!

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    I think there is a big difference between a swastika and a CCCP team jacket.

    Go Johnny!

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    I think the Olympic ideal is about sports and good sportsmanship bringing the nations together. My hope is that in the long run, this will contribute to world peace. Wearing a jacket of another nation while on one's off time, as opposed to wearing it during the athletes' initial march in the opening ceremonies, seems to me, to be a gesture for friendship between nations. The old USSR jacket probably originally belonged to one of Johnny's many friends; he is so appreciated by the Russian audience, to whom he shows great respect and affection. They reciprocate by showing him respect and affection.

    I believe that it is people like Johnny who will contribute to the vision of world peace, rather than people who cannot let go of the Cold War. I believe that Johnny really understands the Olympic ideal, far better than many who complain about him.

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    You know it was the mode here en France only two years ago,, all the teenage boys were earing that exact jacket! whats the big deal???
    I have two hockey jerseys myself both I bought in Russia, one is Russian the other is Soviet,, I love them for working out.
    Its just cloths,,,:sheesh:
    Fauve

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