That's fine, I've won't dream of venturing into your "heart of hearts." At least we got it clear that Sasha did notify the media about her not planning to give interviews. It got overlooked in the beginning of the thread.
Originally Posted by Red Dog
IMO, she got hurt more by the fact that everyone was told that "she wouldn't be there for practice" and then was there, than she would have been if she simply had not been there at all -- or, if she said something like "Look, I saw what happened to the other athletes who have the media covering them all the time; and I don't want it to happen to me."
Oh, I don't think she got hurt at all. Anti-fans would bash her no matter what, one blurb in the press discribed her actions, as "giving meida a slip," while another journalist praised her, the third article was neutral. And no one would remember any of it tomorrow anyway.
Originally Posted by attyfan
[QUOTE=attyfan- or, if she said something like "Look, I saw what happened to the other athletes who have the media covering them all the time; and I don't want it to happen to me."[/QUOTE]
Well, now we do know what was behing Cohen's reasoning. It is exactly what you have suggested. Where's the controvercy?
OK, here's the deal in a nutshell.
Cohen wins the OGM (Red Dog's chance meter- 20%)- the episode will be quickly forgotten, and she'll be the media darling, the American princess, whatever you want to call her
Cohen does not win the OGM (Red Dog's chance meter - 80%)- she will likely be kicked down for doing what she did, and they'll say the method of training wasn't good enough, etc.
There shouldn't be any hard feelings, overall...one member of the press was on her side, even (the author of the article I posted above).
Red Dog- I agree 100%. The press basically declare the winner 100% correct and lacking all fault while skewering the runners-ups every moves (unless they overperfromed.) They also do not seem to know the leading women's tech content or the reality of this scoring system to save their lives (if I read on more thing about ladies consistantly reeling off multiple 3/3s and 3 axels I will scream.)
I remember Kwan once saying- winning simplifies everything and always though that quote was about the press. I think Sasha's press avoidance is actually very smart. They'll see her after the SP and LP, why give them the chance to build her up or tear her down beforehand just to adjust their opinion after the results.
Last edited by rob43; 02-17-2006 at 05:06 PM.
Wouldn't it be something if the ladies competition turns our like the mens. Who will the media turn to then?
Hey Millie nobody will ever accuse those spotlight grabbing DD's:chorus: :chorus: :chorus: of avoiding the press will they?
I am thinking the only surprises nin skating could be a possible ice dance costume malfunction. Be warned if I have to see any of Babs Fusor-Poli's body parts I am suing NBC.
Last edited by Piel; 02-17-2006 at 05:06 PM.
I think is better to let their skating do the talking. Its more exciting to wait to see what the top ladies have in store for us and less nerve racking. We know what each of their strengths are so now it all depends on how good they beef up their weak points. Its smart to not lay all your cards on the table so the competition can study it.
Originally Posted by rob43
Last edited by Peggy; 02-17-2006 at 05:56 PM.
Keeper of La Khok's Tutus
OK - I know, I know. This will sound boring, and probably harsh...
I'm curious about who participating in this thread actually competes in a sport? I'm not even talking about a "NBC Televised Sport." I'm talking about ANY sport where any kind of "spotlight" is involved. I am in an unknown sport (outside of those who are directly involved) but I can tell you for SURE that ouside pressure is real, and unwelcome. I can't even describe it without writing a novel. I hope whether you compete or not, you can find a way to put yourself, even minimally, in these athletes shoes.
Originally Posted by Piel
What they do on the ice will be remembered LONG after how they handled the media. That doesn't make the media bad. Their job is to get a story, and it's OK for a "subject" to say no.
I don't play sports but I used to play piano and was forced to go play in recitals and tests and I hated it with a passion (not the piano, but being forced always to play in front of people as a child) I ended up quitting on the day of one of the tests because I refused to go and then my parents stopped sending me for lessons. So, I definitely give these skaters credit for having the guts to even get out there. I would not have the temperament to deal with press the way they all do so well, I'd be like Oksana Baiul storming off in a huff and then you'd all be writing about how mean I was!
Originally Posted by Doggygirl
But DG IMO it's part of the job of being an elite athlete, especially when you are participating in a media driven sporting event like the Olys.. I think Cohen could have handled it with ease, or am I giving her too much credit?. It is not healthy to concentrate on practice 24/7. I bet she has taken a couple of hours off to shop, so why not participate in the media day?
I have competed at different things and yes there is stress. But part of being a good competitor whether it is football, figure skating, dance, cheerleading, or debate is learning to handle the nerves and to be able to continue with the other parts of life during your competitive season.
Does this mean Millie and I have to handle all of the press?
Sasha says that she loves being in the spotlight so I find it hard to believe that this would make her nervous.
Originally Posted by flying camel
Cohen is Cohen. She's a good skater and could possibly stop the Russian sweep.
Some people worry so much about her like she's the biggest thing to hit figure skating. Not so, imo. some people do not want to show that they are rooting for her.