View Poll Results: Where would Kwan have finished the competition?

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    Where would Kwan have finished?

    Now that Kwan has officialy withdrawn where do you feel this great Champion would have finished in her final Olympics had she been healthy enough to compete. Just to note I am not referring to a situation of her being healthy since the end of last year, but the situation as it was, with her recovering when she did and staying healthy enough to be able to compete, with everything that has happened until Turino happening as it did until being healthy enough in Turino to be able to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slutskayafan21
    Now that Kwan has officialy withdrawn where do you feel this great Champion would have finished in her final Olympics had she been healthy enough to compete. Just to note I am not referring to a situation of her being healthy since the end of last year, but the situation as it was, with her recovering when she did and staying healthy enough to be able to compete, with everything that has happened until Turino happening as it did until being healthy enough in Turino to be able to compete.
    given the trend of skaters falling apart at the seams, I think she would have skated pretty clean programs and gotten to the podium - not sure if she would have had enough to get the gold cuz I have no idea what jump sequences she had planned or what her programs looked like - but I think she could have medaled if the women's event turns out to be anything like the men's

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    After seeing the competition she maybe could have won a silver or bronze if she skated cleanly. More likely though she would finish 4th or 5th. That is where most voted as well.

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    Well, based on the rather odd judging, I guess I would have to suppose she would have been 4th. I'm basing that on Irina finishing 3rd, and I think Irina overall would have probably outskated her, tho maybe not by very much. Now, if Irina had beaten Sasha like IMO she should have, I would have put Michelle for 3rd, because I think she would have beaten Sasha. But given that I feel the final placement order should have been Arakawa, Slutskaya, Suguri, Rochette, Cohen, instead of the order it was in, WHO KNOWS????

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    What is interesting is her ratio of gold picks and medal picks, relative to what is was before the long program has gone far up, there are a far higher ratio of people picking higher placing than before the womens long program? Coincidence?

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    I said top 5, because I don't think she would have gotten a medal in the new judging system

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    Quote Originally Posted by slutskayafan21
    What is interesting is her ratio of gold picks and medal picks, relative to what is was before the long program has gone far up, there are a far higher ratio of people picking higher placing than before the womens long program? Coincidence?
    That is so true. In the short program, Sasha, Irina and Shizuka all did OK, so to predict that Michelle hobbling around out there could only get fourth seemed reasonable.

    After we saw the LPs -- Michelle could beat that standing on her head, LOL.

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    This does not clarify whether she was "without injury" - so even with the injury they still would have put her in the top 10 just for being MK. Relatively fair in some aspects because NO ONE can "work the steps" like MK. All singles and a clean for her spiral with the fantastic foot work she throws out there, she would have received 10th at least.
    All and all I am glad she did not go because Emmie did what you do to get there, you can throw all the "ifs" and "what about everything before" you want at me. When it comes down to it, still a sport that you go through steps to qualify. That should be stuck to or people will be more likely to say it isn't really a sport but a pop contest. Rather they are wrong or not, that is the reality of the public eye. Glad she tried, but Nats were not hers.
    Iff she WAS totally healthy, my guess is 2nd, or put the pressure on Shi-chan to do the 3combo and possibly fell...this is just to much speculation. I cant do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanibu
    ...When it comes down to it, still a sport that you go through steps to qualify. That should be stuck to...
    I think many people don't realize that the United States Figure Skating Association does have "steps that you have to go through to qualify," and they do follow their own rules and bylaws, in accordance with the specifications of the USOC, the IOC and the ISU.

    The rules are: (1) The U.S. champion goes. (That was Sasha.)

    (2) If there is more than one spot available (spots are earned by the performance of the previous year's worlds team -- Michelle and Sasha earned two extra spots for the U.S. by finishing 2nd and 4th at 2005 worlds) then USFC through its committee structure fills the other two spots based on such considerations as

    (a) Placement at Nationals (Kimmie was second, Emily third, Katy Taylor fourth).

    (b) Placement at Worlds (Sasha was second, Michelle was fourth, Jenny Kirk was 17th).

    (c) Performance in other international competitions (Alissa Czisny got second at Skate America, first at Skate Canada and was the only American lady to make the Grand Prix final.)

    All of these criteria were taken into account by USFS in selecting the U.S. Olympic team and its alternates.

    Now, obviously there can be a difference of opinion as to whether the rules ought to be changed for 2010. Maybe it would be "more like a sport" if they had a qualifying tournament period (like they do for track and field), independent of U.S. nationals, World placements, etc.

    But these are the rules as they exist.

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    Thanks MM

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