Medalists who have fallen in Olympics
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*~RussianBleux~* said:
I totally agree, Fumie is not up to the same level as Shizuka and Sasha by any means but I think her overall performance was better than Irina's. they both lack choreography, transitions and stretch, good lines etc. and Fumie landed the jumps. Actually, maybe Joannie Rochette should have been third - but she was probably too far behind after the short program. Irina was lucky to be on the podium IMO
FreeKatie said:
Chen hit the boards on the triple lutz in her short program at the Lillehammer Olympics, right next to the opening where a TV camera was sticking out over the ice, so on the double toe following, which was landed on two feet, she hit the camera. She didn't fall.
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Tonichelle said:
I think alot of the comments about the fall on the ending pose was that it wasn't {edited to correct a typo!) a deduction because it wasn't a fall on a mandatory element. The comentators over here stressed that if any marks were lost for that fall it would be from the Presntation mark rather than the technical mark.
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antmanb said:
I don't think US tv covered Europeans then especially in prime time. I have a clear memory during those olympics though of Dick Button explaining why the fall shouldn't hurt him because it wasn't because he was trying to do something difficult or words to that effect. I don't remember seeing Cousins SP live (I was working and attending classes at nights then and with no vcr's I missed big parts of the competition.
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Mafke said:
To be honest i wasn't thinking from memory (being only 2 in 1980!) but more from commentary that Robin made during a world or European competition - the one where Maria Butyrskaya was competing skating to Otonal in that white dress and near the end she skates backwards and has a "click of death" moment where she clicks heel and toe of her blades together and falls down. Robin at the end said "for those of you that remember dortmund 1980 i did the exact same thing."
Having looked it up dortmund was the world championships.
Ant
I am saying that it doesn't matter if you think it's a fall. It's doesn't matter what I think constitutes a fall. There are rules in place defining a fall. The referee is obliged to go by the official definition when determining whether a fall has occurred. Therefore, as far as the judging is concerned, Sasha fell once.
I hope that was clear enough for you to understand.
I hope that was clear enough for you to understand.
That was under 6.0, so there's no way to know what (or if) the judges took off for it. I don't know how a fall was defined in 1992.
I am sure the definition and judging of falls changed over the years of 6.0. I remember reading in an autobigraphy (early 70's) that judges weren't supposed to take off points for falls. They just weren't suppose to give credit for the jump.
I am sure the definition and judging of falls changed over the years of 6.0. I remember reading in an autobigraphy (early 70's) that judges weren't supposed to take off points for falls. They just weren't suppose to give credit for the jump.
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SusanBeth said:I am saying that it doesn't matter if you think it's a fall. It's doesn't matter what I think constitutes a fall. There are rules in place defining a fall. The referee is obliged to go by the official definition when determining whether a fall has occurred. Therefore, as far as the judging is concerned, Sasha fell once.
I hope that was clear enough for you to understand.
I don't exactly recall the wording of the new definition of a fall, but whatever it is, it needs to be re-worked. Because there is NO WAY that Sasha's second fall should not have been counted as a fall. I mean, you can't see that mistake and say that she "landed" the jump, and if you didn't land a jump, then you fell. It wasn't a mere step-out or turn-out.
dancindiva03 said:
According to Sonia Bianchetti. It was a mistake by techniq panel. But it won't affect the overall result. Just show that how influential the technique panel could be in NJS.
http://www.mkforum.net/forum/showpost.php?p=183146&postcount=1
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