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    All Russian medallists to skip Worlds


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    Larry thanks for the post.

    Can't say I am shocked but with all the medalists being out, how on earth would Russia secure more than 1 or 2 spots for the next year? With the minimum number of slots for the next year, how can others not "count Russia out"? I can see them maybe getting 3 spots in pairs for next year, and only of P&T will show up (unlikely). Everybody else is a different story. Only Sokolova can get inot top 10 in tha ladies, especially with VV being out. Klimkin and whoever else gets sent (Dobrin?) will have to work really hard. I can only see the ice dancing teams (1 and 2) both possibly placing in the top 10, at the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_Blues_fan
    Larry thanks for the post.

    Can't say I am shocked but with all the medalists being out, how on earth would Russia secure more than 1 or 2 spots for the next year?
    Maybe they don't especially want more than 1 or 2 spots next year. The Russian ranks really aren't very deep at present. Pairs, yeah if P/T show up I imagine they and O/S can secure three spots (if O doesn't dump S before then).

    Without Plushenko, the Russian men don't have a lot going on. Klimkin's a big fave or mine but even the top 10 is not a given since he's not the most consistent guy around. I'd love to see him skate great and even medal, but I'm not going to bet money on that. I'm not familiar with Dobrin but I've been pretty underwhelmed so far by Griazev.

    Women, again without Slutskaya they're gambling. Depending on whether the Sokolova from Euros or Oly's shows up she could miss the top ten or be in the final group. Do they really want to gamble on having one ladies spot next year?

    All that said, I can understand TT wanting to get her health situation sorted out and Slute and Plush just wanting to have something like a break for a while. But the Russian field really is in bad need of rebuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_Blues_fan
    Can't say I am shocked but with all the medalists being out, how on earth would Russia secure more than 1 or 2 spots for the next year? With the minimum number of slots for the next year, how can others not "count Russia out"? I can see them maybe getting 3 spots in pairs for next year, and only of P&T will show up (unlikely). Everybody else is a different story. Only Sokolova can get inot top 10 in tha ladies, especially with VV being out. Klimkin and whoever else gets sent (Dobrin?) will have to work really hard. I can only see the ice dancing teams (1 and 2) both possibly placing in the top 10, at the most.
    My question is with almost all Russian Medalist retiring after this season (Pair and Dance already announced. only Irina and Plushen undecided, but most likely will), does Russian really have more than 2 to send over next worlds? Did they waste a berth in Lady this Olympics already?

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    Ha! Didn't I predict this weeks ago? Haven't I written on more than one occasion here of how Russian stars feel about performing at any ir less-than-fair treatment & poor audience reactions at the '03 Worlds in DC?

    Any gold that is won in Calgary will be like the medals that were won at the 84 Los Angeles Olympics.

    Not to forget that the top lady of the world -- Mao Asada -- won't be there, as she was not in Torino. So this Worlds will forever be known as the scramble for gold among the '2nd tier' competitors.

    Just telling it like it is. Sad moment for World skating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frau Muller
    Ha! Didn't I predict this weeks ago? Haven't I written on more than one occasion here of how Russian stars feel about performing at any ir less-than-fair treatment & poor audience reactions at the '03 Worlds in DC?

    Any gold that is won in Calgary will be like the medals that were won at the 84 Los Angeles Olympics.

    Not to forget that the top lady of the world -- Mao Asada -- won't be there, as she was not in Torino. So this Worlds will forever be known as the scramble for gold among the '2nd tier' competitors.

    Just telling it like it is. Sad moment for World skating.
    I completely disagree with you, and actually find slightly offensive the idea that this will be a second-rate competition. Dance will still be a great competition with the top Russians out - in fact, I can't say I'll particularly miss them now that they've retired. Pairs will also be a great fight. I've never found T/M thrilling.

    And Mao Asada is NOT the top ladies skater in the world. That's just silly. She's a talented junior who may become the best, but has done nothing to earn the title so far.

    I actually think worlds will be fascinating with this lot out. We get to see the up-and-comers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain
    I completely disagree with you, and actually find slightly offensive the idea that this will be a second-rate competition. Dance will still be a great competition with the top Russians out - in fact, I can't say I'll particularly miss them now that they've retired. Pairs will also be a great fight. I've never found T/M thrilling.

    And Mao Asada is NOT the top ladies skater in the world. That's just silly. She's a talented junior who may become the best, but has done nothing to earn the title so far.

    I actually think worlds will be fascinating with this lot out. We get to see the up-and-comers.
    ITA!

    I have never seen a more outrageously enthusiastic audience at a Worlds than in 2003. They were ever ready to jump out of their seats screaming when they saw a great skate. The Russians just didn't have the most exciting skates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frau Muller
    Not to forget that the top lady of the world -- Mao Asada --
    You mean the top lady who lost her national championship to the fourth place skater at the olympics? That top lady skater?

    Let's have some semblance of reality.

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    This will make for a very interesting Worlds.

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    I had a slightly different take on this. To me, there is something wrong with a sport in which the top performers care so little about its World Championship that they don't bother to show up.

    The Grand Prix series is already in the toilet because many of the top people don't want to skate in it.

    If the athletes don't want to compete, why should the audience want to come or watch on TV?

    It is as if figure skating wants to be a sport that exists only for two weeks every four years.

    MM :frown2:

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    To be honest, I will not miss the two couple teams in Calgary. I'm not saying they aren't technically good but as far as presentation, they are just boring. JMO.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    I had a slightly different take on this. To me, there is something wrong with a sport in which the top performers care so little about its World Championship that they don't bother to show up.

    The Grand Prix series is already in the toilet because many of the top people don't want to skate in it.

    If the athletes don't want to compete, why should the audience want to come or watch on TV?

    It is as if figure skating wants to be a sport that exists only for two weeks every four years.

    MM :frown2:
    Russia's just doing what a lot of skaters have done since 94... it seems to be the new trend of the olympics... miss the worlds after having the emotional roller coaster ride of a lifetime at the olys...

    I disagree with it, but I guess I've never been in those shoes so...

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    thanks for the news...not surprising, though.

    I still wonder if Arakawa is going to Worlds. If she isn't, this could be a VERY interesting competition. Cohen and Suguri would be the only top contenders to show up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog
    thanks for the news...not surprising, though.

    I still wonder if Arakawa is going to Worlds. If she isn't, this could be a VERY interesting competition. Cohen and Suguri would be the only top contenders to show up!
    Then Rochette or Meissner might sneak out a medal, maybe even Hughes if she can skate a bit better than she did in Turin. The bronze would be wide open with Ando and Sokolova not skating well this year(if Sokolova even goes).

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    I think that Rochette or Meissner could easily get a medal if they skate well.

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