There are also tons of pairs & dancers who never got the right partner, or couldn't stay with the right partner long enough, but woulda/shoulda had that magical combo ever happened. Of course Jamie Silverstein & Justin P.--I don't think we'll see another team like that for a long long time. But there are lots of others.
The best skaters never to win big...
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Gotta disagree about Jenny never improving much... her final two years of skating were great... she did improve and had beautiful programs... I loved getting to see her skate in Portland at nationals. Yeah she had a rough LP, but she was still stunning, and I was way up in teh nose bleeds. She was much more fun to watch than Sasha or Michelle (for me) that year.
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Did Gary Beacom ever win Canadian Nationals?
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Internationally speaking, Toller Cranston. He was Canadian champion six times but has one bronze World medal and one bronze Olympic medal. He won the free skate several times--but buried himself in the figures. He and Janet Lynn were both cursed in the era of the figures --which were not the strong suit of either. You can certainly say that both were incredibly influential as far as artistry though and both still have a strong fan base in the skating community from what I have seen on the net. There's more to a skater than a medal -though they certainly are shiny!
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Tonichelle said:
Fair enough but the judges were never sold enough on her to make her even a usual on the U.S team, didnt she retire because she felt she had no chance to even make the 2002 U.S Olympic team with Meissner added to the mix? I thought that was the reason but I could be wrong. I believe she never once lost to Cohen as a junior as well.
One interesting thing about Jenny though is she has a very good head to head with Arakawa I believe. It is amazing how the World of womens skating is, a skater who only qualified directly for Worlds once(she went in 2002 and 2005 as well due to age ineligabiilty or withdrawals)has had alot of success vs a women who would win both the Worlds and the Olympics in her career.
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I'm guessing you meant 2006 - and as for that, she just said she'd lost the love of the sport... and really she had retired previously, and came back, had a couple of decent seasons, and then went back home...
to be honest I think being on the other side of the US from most of her family had a lot to do with her losing her joy... much more so than competitive results
to be honest I think being on the other side of the US from most of her family had a lot to do with her losing her joy... much more so than competitive results
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Kasey said:
Alexander Abt I definitately agree with, but also Rory Burghard, from Alaska, I believe.
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Deanna Stellato was very very talented. I was fortunate enough to share the ice with her on a number of occasions (we skated at the same rink) and I was always in awe of her. Had she not gotten injured and had to deal with the subsequent emotional issues, there is not a doubt in my mind that she would have stepped up to become a world medalist.
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JockProf said:
yeah I always like reading that part in Scott's book
speaking of rival of Scott's... would Scott Cramer count? I've never seen videos or anything on him, but he seemed to be able to give all of the skaters a run for their money
Tonichelle said:
Well Jenny had several problems that kept her from being considered as a real contender by the judges... First of all, cutesy show-tunes style music. That appears as juniorish to judges. Also, cutesy/flirty/coquettish choreography that fit her music. That also came off as juniorish. All Kirk needed was dramatic classical music, dramatic gestures, and facial expressions of incredibly joy or suffering. Only that would transform her capable jumping routines into programs that appeal to judges.
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Irina-never won Olys,even if she deserves it
Definitely Cadavy (one of my all-time favorites) and Santee. And does anyone else remember a guy in the late 80s, US skater named Erik Larson? I always thought he was terrific and would at least make a World team or two down the road, but it never happened. Rather like Delmore.
Lisa Ervin is also at the top of my list. She was just absolutely fantastic at 14, at the 92 Nats, and I expected great things from her, as did many. She is still the best 14-year-old skater I have ever seen.
I guess the jury is still out on Naomi Nari Nam?
I always thought Tiffany & Johnnie Stiegler were going to make it big, too. I saw them at 13 & 15 and couldn't believe they were that young, they had such maturity.
Lisa Ervin is also at the top of my list. She was just absolutely fantastic at 14, at the 92 Nats, and I expected great things from her, as did many. She is still the best 14-year-old skater I have ever seen.
I guess the jury is still out on Naomi Nari Nam?
I always thought Tiffany & Johnnie Stiegler were going to make it big, too. I saw them at 13 & 15 and couldn't believe they were that young, they had such maturity.
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Kasey said:
Irina won on Euros 7 times and you should know that
But she never won thing that she deserves more than anyone-OGM
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