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You got it, SS, I looked up trite and it is a variation of undesireable in the sense of bad taste.
Joe
Joe
Golden Skate, imo does cover a lot of territory despite the Kwan/Cohen gushes.Spun Silver said:Still not sure I get it. You're saying it's fine to argue somewhat snappishly, with style and panache, in defense of one's beloved (to use the Platonic term), but not to do so in a way that is tasteless, unimaginative, and obvious?
Or are you ruling out dull, obvious posts at all times?
I'm not sure I can live up to either standard!
This is an interesting board. Sure is different from some others I am not supposed to name!
MKFSfan said:I guess, had you said you didn't feel Michelle connected or understood Schez, I would understand better, but to say Michelle is not musical when you know everyone who likes her likes that very thing about her, well, how can it not be insulting?
soogar said:Well I wonder why people think Michelle is so musical. Michelle's programs pretty much are geared toward landing her jumps. Now I know all skaters create programs for their jumps; but I feel that in Michelle's case, it is all about the jumps. I watched her live on COI this year and she did a program with a lot of choreography because she couldn't do jumps. While I know she is injured, it wasn't the execution of the choreographic elements that was lacking, but rather that they were just elements in themselves and did not relate to the music. That's why I don't really care for Michelle's skating. Now Sasha has her own formulaic movements in terms of her spirals and Russian split jumps but her movements go with the music. The Russian jumps goes with punctuation of the music; her hand movements are timed with the music; her toes and extension seem to follow the crest of the music. I understand that there are only so many movements a skater can do, but some skaters seem to skate to their music a lot better than others. Like Lambiel verses Plushenko.
Fans may love Michelle for her consistency and constant presence on the competitive circuit; they may love her because she always looks happy skating out there; they may even love her because she always wins; but she is not a musical skater and never will be. She just executes what she is told and she does it well enough to land the all important jumps.
Vash01 said:but almost all her programs show great sensitivity to the music she is skating to. They are finesse type things and not a 'look at me' type flexibility-showcasing moves. For example, her COE spiral is very expressive. She is right on the music when she does the falling leaf, which is very difficult to do with the music.
Joesitz said:Vash - I think the choreo for Bolero (Dean) was probably a lot better than what we saw. There was much tweeking in that piece and it must have annoyed Dean. What we got was a watered down version of a loopless Kwan. At that point in time I believe the pain of the hips were at a peak.
However, MK did keep to the music.
Joe
MKFSfan said:Sources reported the 1st version of Bolero, Campbells Fall Cheesfest, contained the most Dean choreo. It was a beautiful program, very "dance-y" but empty in terms of COP friendly elements. I personally liked that version best, I thought there was more passion and musicality to that version of the program (not compared to ALL MK programs, but compared to other Bolero attempts).
Vash01 said:I liked that version of Bolero. Of course I had expected it to evolve and get even better with time, but it regressed, so I think Joe's assessment (about the injury) must be correct.
Vash
Eeyora said:As did I but in the end it was more pleasant to watch than a competitive program. I also liked it when I saw her use it during COI in Boston. It think it was more of an exhibition number or an Interpritive program.
nymkfan51 said:I actually liked Scheherazade quite a bit. The real problem wasn't with it, but with the fact that Michelle wasn't ever happy that season, and it showed. Even with her unhappiness though, had she not fallen on that flip and won the Olys ... almost nobody would be looking at Schez as a negative thing now. JMHO, of course.