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    Jonny I think the assumption is that everyone is only interested in removing them from their homes without harming them. I say kill them and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piel
    Jonny I think the assumption is that everyone is only interested in removing them from their homes without harming them. I say kill them and be done with it.
    Hopefully no one from PETA read that

    seriously though, I agree... better you harm it than it harms you!

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    Now, now. I never said I thought it was pregnant. I said if there were babies and after I think about it, if they're thinking they're in danger, they swallow the babies. That's what happened when my brothers would tease them on the farm. I sure didn't stand there and watch it. EEEEEuuuu. I should have to see what way it went but when you have a problem like that you don't want to look. Then when I got my paper yesterday, one of the sections had pictures of snakes on the first and third pages of that section. So I threw it out. If I died someone will have to tell me. One time my brothers went out to the barn and there was a snake in the manger hole where they tie up the horses and it had swallowed 2 eggs. One on each side of the whole and was stuck so the brothers smashed the eggs and it went on through. ughhhhhhhhh I could look it up and see if they lay eggs or have babies but there would be pictures of snakes so I couldn't read it anyway.

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    Yeah, determining whether or not someone who lays eggs is 'pregnant' or not tends to be difficult.....

    Don't kill the snake, no matter how supposedly 'humane' (???) the method may be according to whatever self-styled expert.
    If memory serves, the only dangerous snake you would have in your neck of the woods would be a Prairie rattler, and you'd definitely notice if that's what it was.
    Otherwise, this snake will probably just sleep somewhere most of the time (they're VERY good at that...), and eat the odd mouse once a week or so.

    I've got black widows, lots of them, living right outside the door, and all I do when one decides to come in, is gently evict the lady, so she doesn't bite the cats.


    Your snake is nothing to worry about, it's not a shark.......

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    Wolfgang, have you ever heard of the word phobia. It doesn't matter at all how dangerous it is. Do you expect someone with claustrophrobia to get on an elevator? I get people laughing at me all the time, but to me it is not funny. If I had known there was help for it years ago I would have done that. Now that I am old and know they are going to force me to be in a room with them, forget it. Do you tell people who cannot go out of their house to just get over it and go out. If so, I'm sorry you have no empathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyCoop
    Secondly, the mental pictures I am getting on this whole thread are just getting weirder and weirder; so now we head for the glue trap with a can of PAM in hand and start spraying away at it? Talk about hoping your neighbors ain't watching.....
    No way would I waste a can of Pam. I would roll it up in a piece of carpet (Yikes, my skin is crawling) and then get in my car and run over it and then back up and run over it again, and again and again. I sound like a psycho!!!

    Am I related to the Bates family?

    Piel, I liked our thread about our precious Camille much better.

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    I apologize Grganny, I would be at fault for leading this in that direction. It was due to your comment....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grgranny
    The belly looked kind of white with black markings. With my luck, it probably has babies in it.
    ....misunderstood....So I thought glue, to trap the babies too. 'Cause I didn't know of a trap or even a killing device other than poison - that potentially would be bad for other animals around.

    And I feel what "wolfy" is saying - meaning sympathize. I don't like playing "God" and deciding what lives and dies. YET on the other hand it is the evolution of the world. The IDEA that no other species has driven another to extinction is ONLY speculation. And in reality, with all the other "stuff" and species we introduce the balance will change - whether we do something intentional or not.

    My heart says, "please be nice and humane to all of "Gods" creatures. They all serve some kind of balance."

    My mind says, "what is the difference, we made a difference by thriving above all other species. It is time they adapt or fade away. And if it were my Mom, Grandma....that was getting freaked out by the thing, I would eliminate it's life to have Grandmas that much better."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piel
    Jonny I think the assumption is that everyone is only interested in removing them from their homes without harming them. I say kill them and be done with it.
    My friend does that with mice, but he uses one of those "catch but not harm" traps where he can just pick it up and toss them out in a field someplace; I should think if you're going to go that route, a glue trap is just not the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee4707
    No way would I waste a can of Pam. I would roll it up in a piece of carpet (Yikes, my skin is crawling) and then get in my car and run over it and then back up and run over it again, and again and again. I sound like a psycho!!!


    Dee
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    Jonny, you're a girl ? guy? after my own heart. I couldn't do it but the thought does come to mind.

    (girl - guy? If you're a guy over 68 and single and rich, let's talk. )

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    Dee I would be afraid to run over one with the car. I am too afraid when I got out of the car it would be right there with just enough life left in it to bite me.

    Granny you are absolutely right about being phobic. Phobias are irrational fears so no amount of reasoning or fact makes a difference. When I was younger I went to a therapist about my snake phobia because it has kept me from doing things I wanted to do. The therapist's idea was first looking at pictures of them, then watching them on TV, the progressing to a zoo, and eventually handling a nonvenemous snake. Needless to say that therapy didn't work for me...I never went back after th first visit.

    Jonny if you are under 68 and single and rich call me....1-800-noprenup

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    :chorus: :chorus: :chorus:

    Ladies, Ladies..... Please!!

    Sorry -- flat broke, actually. :sheesh:

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyCoop
    :chorus: :chorus: :chorus:

    Ladies, Ladies..... Please!!

    Sorry -- flat broke, actually. :sheesh:
    I think this thread has made us all a little on the goofy side. Anybody else think so too.

    Piel, I can relate to what you're saying. When I was a little girl, I would help my dad in the garden. Well, guess what was in the garden. When my dad saw it, he jumped back and for a split second I saw fear in him. Now my dad was my hero, who wasn't afraid of anything. After that happened as a child I thought if dad is afraid of snakes, then I should be afraid. As I grew older the fear never left me. I used to live in an upstairs apartment in a house and my landlord lived downstairs. One Saturday morning I was going out and there was a snake sunning itself on the sidewalk, I turned around and went back upstairs and didn't leave until I had to go to work on Monday morning. I was to the point I couldn't even look at them on TV, in a book or go to the zoo. YIKES!!! I'm a little better now, I can see them on TV, quick glances in a book, don't want to go to the zoo to see any animal let alone .the reptile house.

    I guess my reason for telling the story is how my phobia got started, I think.

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    Granny...I know exactly what you mean about phobias. An aunt of mine had a horrible fear of snakes; she was really incapacitated by it. Just the mention of the word, "snake," would do her in, LOL. Once when I drove over to see her and my uncle, as I entered the back door I found her in the kitchen ironing clothes with a vengence and sobbing her heart out. From her choked-out words I discovered she had gone into the garage to get something, and while rummaging around looking through boxes on the floor, she disturbed a snake which quickly began slithering away. It scared her half to death! She bolted out of the attached garage and back into the house, slamming the door behind her.

    She was 73 at the time and had this incredible fear of snakes since she was a young girl. Since her husband had gone out to do errands I told her I would go into the garage and make sure the snake was gone. She was so terrified she wouldn't let me open the door from the kitchen to get into the garage, LOL. I had to go out the back door of the house and get in though the utility door to the building. After checking nearly every nook and cranny in that building, I found a garter snake curled up in a corner next to an old wooden tool box. It was about a foot long. It started scooting when it saw me. The garage door was up and I "helped" it out with a broom, LOL, and then closed the garage door. My aunt refused to go with me back to the garage so that I could prove to her, and allay her anxiety, that the snake was gone. It is really terrible to be that afraid of anthing but I know how it feels because I'm terrified of garden spiders. I was bitten as a child and had a nasty reaction to the bite. To this day those things just give me the creeps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyCoop
    My friend does that with mice, but he uses one of those "catch but not harm" traps where he can just pick it up and toss them out in a field someplace; I should think if you're going to go that route, a glue trap is just not the way to go.
    Not only does this remind me of the Sienfeld that Elaine hired Kramer and Nuemann to kidnap a dog and drive it out into the country side, and it came back.
    A house I lived in with roommates and one of them did the exact same thing - alas for some reason we wound up with more mice and they would just sit there "gazing" at you sometimes. Like, "are you going to take me back to the field?" That stopped when we found them in the stove - by way of cooking a turkey.
    The Crow problem they are having in Tokyo right now - the only reason they have so many is be cause of us. Something a little more for thought is the over population of a particular "critter" in one area. If you have too many of one animal in a single area they will not survive there either. Also, if the area people took them to was preferably habitable by them in the first place, they would be there already, otherwise they will come back or have their place taken, "ah vacancy at the house Martha, we can get in now!".

    Very much like the issues we are having in the area I live in with the prairie dogs, Mountain Lions and Bears. Prairie dogs over populate an area and spread out and the males who don't mate acutely commit suicide. MT lions are very territorial, and will also spread out. We have lost a few cats in the neighbor hood and a couple of kids have been attacked. Yep, they get taken back into the wild - unless they attack humans - but the tags are proving they come back.

    Anyway just a few more thoughts on the balance between being humane and realistic. Yes the heart says be nice, but when kids are getting diagnosed with plague from playing in the local baseball field and loosing legs - not to mention the pets - it is time to get real. I would rather Grganny kill the thing then have a accident because she sees the thing and falls or something.

    2 sides to every coin, and sometimes it HAS TO flip.
    Last edited by SeaniBu; 06-07-2006 at 11:36 AM.

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