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Joe, follow the link that GKelly just provided and click on judges protocalls (pdf) for the men's free skate. The direct link is the one that I gave above (post #18, near the top).Joesitz said:Please the details of the worlds scoring.
Here are Lambiel's scores for the disputed elements.
2A (reflecting the downgrading) 3.3 (base value for a double Axel)
Next comes the average GOE for the judging panel. This is after the random draw and after the high and low are thrown out, and reflects the weighting of the GOE for that element. For Stephane's Axel it was -0.06. (The surviving scores must have been something like +1 0 0 0 0 -1 -1, with a weighing of 50% for elements with a base score of 3.3 -- this gets a little tricky -- you have to look up the precise conversion of the -1s, etc., for each element).
Then come the GOEs awarded by each individual judge. They are
0 1 -1 1 -1 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -2
The last number is the total credit for the element: 3.24. (= 3.3 - 0.06.)
So Stephane got 3.24 for the attempt instead of the 7.5 (base value for a 3A) that he was hoping for.
GKelly is quite right about +3 GOE. Nobody got a +3 on any element from a single judge in the entire competition.
Yes, I think it is just as well. Since I am not a skater myself I can only go by the various opinions of other people that I have read. Your point of view -- a Lutz is a Lutz, a flip is a flip -- certainly has the merit of clarity.Joe said:Also you avoided the flutz which is just as well.
But the explanations that other posters have written, such as GKelly and Hockeyfan, make a lot of sense to me, too.
Anyway, to me the main concern is that the rules, whatever they are, are uniformly enforced and are interpreted the same way by all parties.
It's like the strike zone in baseball. Every year the umpires and the league get together and decide how they are going to call it this year. Is a pitch at the armpits going to be called a ball or a strike? It depends on whether or not they decide that the fans want to see more home runs this year. As long as they call it the same way for each batter, and as long as everyone knows how they are going be calling it this year, I don't have too much of a gripe.
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