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    Layback spins

    Who do you think had the best layback spins versus the worst layback spins? With the new rules, skaters are adding variations, many of which are not overly attractive, but now its all about points, it seems such a pure simple spin like we used to see will be a thing of the past. Here are my top 10 layback spinners, past and present. And as a special bonus, Ill include some of the worst too !!

    BEST

    1. Angela Nikodinov ( the best ever)
    2. Sasha Cohen
    3. Peggy Fleming
    4. Tiffany Chin
    5. Elaine Zayak
    6. Dorothy Hamill
    7. Lucinda Ruh
    8. Sarah Hughes
    9. Caryn Kadavy
    10. Irina Slutksaya/Janet Lynn/Yuka Sato


    WORST

    1, Diana Poth
    2, Kira Ivanova
    3. Michele Kwan (sorry, but its true)
    4. Jill Trenary
    5. Liz Manley
    6. Claudia Leistner
    7. Surya Bonaly
    8. Olga Markova
    9. Maria Butyraskaya
    10. Rudy Galindo (HAHAHA)

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    The most beautiful picture I have seen of a Layback was Sarah. Her position and the composition of the pic. I always thought MK made up for "how far" by great (and expectable IMO - OMG that takes me back to a discussion in 1998 with the waitresses) arm positions and what she would do with them. Yah how far back...NSI, but she has great leg extension during (recently learned that is referred to as attitude.

    Ira, Yuka and Sasha, I agree with 100%.

    Let me see if I can find the one of Sarah.....

    Sorry it took so long, well not that it matters, it has been slow around here lately anyhoo......
    http://www.hwbhost.com/images/saraflowerlayback.jpg
    ... when I found it it was only at 1.75, so I thought I would get it a little bigger fer' ya'
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    Great picture of Sarah, Sean. And the lighting and compostition of the photograph is exceptional, too.

    The "attitute position" is a ballet term. It looks like this:

    http://images.dance.net/images/85/onstage.gif

    http://www.claudia-alfieri.com/images/attitude.jpg

    Here is Michelle:

    2000

    2001

    2003

    2005

    Michelle is not as flexible in her back as some other skaters are, so she also experimented with a "heart position" with her leg down and her hands clasped behind her back. This looked pretty in motion, but drew criticism because it wasn't the "classic layback position."

    Lowered leg

    Under the CoP you have to do a slew of diferent positions in the same spin to get a level three or four, so the pure layback, a-la-Peggy Fleming et. al., is a thing of the past.

    For comparison, here's Sasha:

    Sasha

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    Last edited by Mathman; 07-15-2006 at 03:11 PM.

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    I admit to being gaga over Sasha's laybacks, although I do enjoy some pretty laybacks by less flexible skaters, like Angela and Sarah.

    These pictures, however, are my favorite layback pictures.
    Layback 1
    Layback 2

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    I am not a fan of the lowered leg on anybody. Somehow, it isn't as impressive or pretty for me. Brinababy87, the first pic of Sasha is gorgeous. I think Alissa Cziny has the most gorgeous layback of all. What I have noticed in hers and the first pic you posted is that the back is not completely flat. One shoulder is lower than the other. Is that acceptable to do in a layback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    For comparison, here's Sasha:

    Sasha

    MM
    Hey Mathman, that picture of Sasha from "Swan Lake" was NOT of a layback but of a transitional element, part of her choreo. Sasha's back position tends to be lower when she does her layback spins.

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    I don't really think that you can call Michelle Kwan one of the worst... Is this including every lady on the senior circuit? It's not her strongest element, but I think that she's improved over the years and agree that her arm positions make her limited hip flexibility forgivable.

    I do agree with all of the top ten... I've also always liked Irina's layback positions... I'm too lazy to search for pictures right now
    Last edited by Turandot; 07-20-2006 at 05:48 AM.

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