07-26-2006, 12:13 PM
Weir himself is the one who fans the most flames about his sexuality. It is very obvious that he wants to come out of the closet yet probably was told to keep his orientation to himself. How do I know this? Well Weir is the one who uses the term "princessy" to describe himself, reveals that his nickname given to him by Bobek is "Tinkerbell" because of the way he moves across the ice [which could be attributed to any one of the US guys yet I have a hard time imagining anyone calling Savoie or Evan 'Tinkerbell'], actively participated in fluff pieces called "Weir Eye" which is a play on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, constantly prances around in a fashion stereotypical to gay men... I could go on and on about the things Weir does that cast light on his sexuality. There are other gay men in skating who don't do things that draw attention to their sexuality like Brian Orser. Even Rudy Galindo doesn't go out of his way to draw attention to his sexuality. Yes Rudy is effeminate, however he doesn't behave in a manner that exaggerates his "femininity" to be provocative.
Originally Posted by chelseamp
Johnny projects this "hysterical queen" persona which seems quite at odds to who he really is as a person. Maybe adopting this public image is his way of giving himself more courage and puff himself up. However he cares too much about what people think of him and is hurt when he is criticized. I get this defensive vibe when I read his interviews.
07-26-2006, 12:14 PM
didn't he also get a big tongue lashing from the USFSA after his comments during Nationals? He played on it during the Olympics, but I'm not sure the death threats are the reasons for his 'good behavior' as of late in teh media....
Originally Posted by antmanb
07-26-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by soogar
There are (at least) two ways of looking at this. One is that this behavior is affected, inauthentic, and unnatural, and therefore he shouldn't act this way; that supposition leads to the conclusion that if he does behave in this fashion, that he 'deserves whatever he gets' because the natural, justifiable reaction to that behavior is negativity. Another way of looking at it would be that his behavior is simple self-expression, and that that in itself doesn't require him to divulge any further personal information; and further, that people who react in a negative fashion to his personality (and I do believe that this is what it is, personality) are the ones with the problem. I don't think he should alter his personality out of fear, but it's probably too late for that, since his personality is 'out there'. I'm pretty disturbed at the implication that if he would only be false and inauthentic he would be better off. Rudy Galindo is openly gay and HIV positive so if he's 'acting straight' I fail to see the logic in that. I don't believe he is; but then I am not someone who finds femininity in men innately offensive, provocative, or attention seeking, so maybe I wouldn't notice.
07-27-2006, 03:45 AM
The last thing i would want is for Weir to try to act straight just because the media/non-fans etc will jump all over him, i'm certainly not saying that's what i want. I want Johnny Weir to be exactly who he is. I think what Soogar was saying was that when Johnny is being his most candid in interviews he doesn't come across the same as his public persona, that being the case you assume that when he's not playing up to an audience/camera ie when he's being the real him he's less over the top and less "drama queeny" for lack of a better word.
Originally Posted by chelseamp
I've had this debate with many people over and over and i would never want anyone to have to hide their sexuality or pretend to be straight or "tone down" their camp/gayness/femininity but Johnny has always tried to ruffle people's and especially the establishment's feathers (which again i'll re-iterate is one of the things i love best about him) but (and i say this defending his choice to do so) if he will flounce through a regional competition, as he did a few seasons ago when he was competing there, wearing full make up and in drag, he has to know that people are going to ask him what he's doing....if you go out of your way to look out of the ordinary, then you must know its going to have a reaction (in my opinion its the reaction he likes) so you're going to have people question you. This would happen if he was in drag or just in any outift that seemed out of the ordinary for your surroundings...if he turned up on a beach wearing a ski suit i'm sure he'd get the same reaction, though i suspect the couture wouldn't be his style!!
07-27-2006, 02:42 PM