Results 1 to 15 of 36

Thread: Does Johnny Weir have a competitive spirit?

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Custom Title Arianne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    302

    Does Johnny Weir have a competitive spirit?

    I think Johnny is a beautiful skater. His lines, posture and movements across the ice are as graceful as any skater before, but do you think that he has the competitive spirit it takes to win a major title, such as worlds or Olympics? He has often said that he wants to make a mark and make skating interesting, but hasn't really worried much about his placement. Even at the Olympics he claimed that he didn't really care where he ended up in the standings. Do you think he really has the fire to turn it on in competition? Of course, we have seen him really come through before, so I hope he has the same passion for competing as he does for performing.

    I know that there are many that don't like Evan L's style, but one thing you have to admit is that he is an awesome competitor! I really wonder if he will be our national champion this year! I do like his style and loved his "Carmen," but I would rather not see it again this year.

    I am so excited to see the outcome of nationals this year as there has been so much talk of Johnny being put on the backburner to Evan.

    I'm just not sure if Johnny gets into a competitive zone before he skates. Of course, I can't read his mind and I don't really know what he is thinking, but thats just what it looks like to me.

    What do you think? Will Johnny turn on the competitive fire this season? He certainly has the potential to be the best in the world, if he really goes for it!

    Arianne

  2. #2
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    272
    I think that he definitely has what it takes, and he definitely has the "competitive" spirit. Afterall, he won 3 US titles in a row, and that's quite an accomplishment.

    Johnny also always does best when he is an underdog. He won 2004 nats after everyone wrote him off. His problem this season stems from his struggle with pressure/expectations and his numerous injuries.

    The only time that he really "choked" this season was at the Olympics free skate, in large part because he did so well in the short that he couldn't deal with the pressure. I think that in order to become the world champion, Johnny needs to learn how to skate great when you are already ahead, because he is good at coming from behind already.

    I actually think that he will be really on this season, because his last season was so disappointing to him. He usually does best when people put him down, and sadly there has been a lot of that last season.
    Last edited by psycho; 08-06-2006 at 11:34 PM.

  3. #3
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    3,559
    I think that Weir could be a great competitor in international events, but he has to find the right mental attitude that works for him. Also he needs to learn true concentration in competitions, in my opinion. It was horrible the way he missed the bus at the Olympics, something like that will never happen to a skater who is concentrated in matters concerning the skating and competition only.

    I hope that this season Weir has learned a lot from past season´s mistakes and will be able to concentrate on training his programmes at practices and not having to use precious time for changing his programmes again and again, hmmm. Or will he repeat the same mistakes regarding the programmes also this season? I sure hope that Weir understands about CoP now and how to use the system for his own advantage.

    Maybe Weir succeeds better now that there is no QR at Worlds? I don´t put much worth on the fact who has won the US Nationals, because that is not important. Important is only the fact that a skater is among those three that will skate at Worlds.

    Weir is one of my big favourites and I wish him a very successful season!!!
    Last edited by Jaana; 08-07-2006 at 12:50 AM.

  4. #4
    Custom Title Arianne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    302
    Yes, Jaana I think you're right. Weir must have spent a lot of time changing programs. He could have used that time to really focus in on his elements and working the COP. Hopefully this year will be different and his music will allow him to skate with that passion that makes him so special.

    I'm also glad to hear that he plans to be world champion this year! An awesome goal...

    I think last year he spent a lot of time being depressed that his Russian LP didn't do anything for the judges or audiences. He really thought that program was going to be classic and COP friendly.

    Can't wait to see his new programs (and costumes!) and watch the rivalry develop between him and Evan!

  5. #5
    Custom Title Joesitz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    20,185
    Johnny's not easy to figure out his mentality. For me, it was easier to see Sasha as more into glamour of skating than competitive skating. She had it all but much to much stardust in her eyes. JMO. And Johnny, for me, is leaning in that direction. If he thinks more about competitive skating as the basis for getting the glamour he so needs (JMO) he will make the gold medal.

    Joe

  6. #6
    Custom Title Arianne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    302
    As for Kurt Browning, I love the fact that he will say virtually ANYTHING. He tells it how it is (at least from his perspective) and that is refreshing. I think its fun to hear the comments he makes about costumes and people's lack of training. He isn't a cookie cutter commentator and we need someone to mix it up in the booth, just like Johnny does on the ice.

    Plus, Kurt is sooo great to have in the crowd. He was a riot at nationals!

  7. #7
    ~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~ Ladskater's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    4,685
    Kurt Browning says "Johnny is too busy being Johnny." So competitive spirit or not he needs to care less about his image and concentrate more on what he does on the ice and why he is there in the first place.

    Just my humble opinion of course.

  8. #8
    Tripping on the Podium
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    71
    I agree that Johnny does his best when he is an underdog. When he is expected to win or medal, he sometimes suffers (like at the Olympics).

    Johnny's already stated that his goal for next season is to be World Champion. So there's definitey some competitive fire going there. Whether he reaches his goal or not, I do think he will do much better than last season. I think he's learned a lot from his 05-06 experiences.

  9. #9
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    272
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladskater
    Kurt Browning says "Johnny is too busy being Johnny." So competitive spirit or not he needs to care less about his image and concentrate more on what he does on the ice and why he is there in the first place.

    Just my humble opinion of course.
    And Kurt Browning needs to stop trying to be cool and "witty" and concentrate more on commentating properly.

    Just my humble opinion

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •