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    Terms and Definitions - Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    You had a great idea a while back, Seanibu, to get together a glossary of skating terms for GS. Maybe someone will have the ambition to follow up on it, for the benefit of both new fans and old.
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaniBu View Post
    Maybe I should do that as an educational experience for me. It might mean a lot of proof reading from others though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theatregirl1122 View Post
    Maybe we should start a thread to brainstorm which terms should be included and then we can work on putting it together. If we start with a list of terms we can break up the work and have everyone make sure we aren't forgetting anthing.
    I don't know where this will go for reference later or If I should have started this here on the "Edge" or "Lutz"

    I think it would be nice to have here at GS "somewhere" for easy reference.

    So let's all pitch in Feel free to correct me at will

    I think it might be good to include slang terms used here as well, like "snark" - my definition would not be good for that.

    The Mods I guess will decide what they want to do with it and hopefully edit/correct and contribute.
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    Axel Jump
    Named after Axel Paulsen, this jump is only one of 2 that involves jumping from the forward position. A skater takes off with his forward outside edge and lands on the back outside edge of the opposite foot facing the opposite direction. A single Axel actually has 1 1/2 revolutions; a double Axel consists of 2 and 1/2, etc....

    Biellmann spin / possition
    Named after Denise Biellmann, it is performed almost exclusively by women. Skating or Spinning on one blade - the skater reaches behind them to grab on the blade of the free skate, pulling the free leg above the head.

    "The Boards"
    The wall around the Ice surface / the rink is often referred to as "The Boards."

    Bunny Hop Jump
    Skating forward, hop from one blade onto the opposite blades' toepick, then kick the free leg to the front as you vault off the toepick landing back on the original jumping blade - the kicking leg.

    Camel spin
    A spin performed with the free leg extended behind the skater, torso is leaning forward, both leg and torso are parallel to the ice.

    Choreography
    Series of planned movements, steps, elements or situations, much like dancing arrangements.

    Code of Points ~ COP, CoP, The code
    A scoring system which specific point values are assigned to each element performed using the GOE and PCS.

    Combination (s) ~ Combos
    Two elements are performed in succession, i.e. the second jump is done with the same edge of the blade from the first jump landed. The Spin changes elements within the same spin.

    Draw/Skating Order

    The sequence and groups in which skaters will compete in competition.

    Edges
    Two edges on both sides of a grooved center/hollow of the blade.

    Edge Jump (s)
    As in the Axel, Salchow and loop. Taking off from the blades edge, keeping free blade from touching the ice.

    Falling Leaf Jump
    This jump starts with half of a turn from a loop. Starting with the rear outside edge and beginning to turn, then kicking (reaching is acceptable) the free leg up and forward at the same time as pushing off the rear outside edge to gain as much hight as possible. Both legs should be perpendicular to the ice (splits) and landing on the forward blades toepick. At this point they will push with the landed toepick onto the front inside edge of the opposite foot.

    Flip Jump
    Takeing off from the back inside edge, and "picking" with the toepick from the free blade onto the ice "vaulting" the skater upward. Then complete the rotation(s) landing on the back outside edge of the skate that was used to "vault"/the used toepick.

    Flutz
    A term for a mistake durring a Lutz. Changing from a back outside edge to an inside edge right before takeoff, thus deming the Lutz a Flip.

    Flying spin(s) ~ ?
    Entering a spin with a jump.

    Free skate/Long program ~ FS, LP
    Usally the second phase of competition in singles and pairs, the first phase being the short program/SP. Lasting; 4 minutes for ladies. 4 minutes, 30 seconds for men, 4 minutes, 30 seconds for senior pairs, (what about dance?) can very 10 seconds without deduction. (is that violation consideration true to all ?)

    Grade of execution ~GOE
    A score each judge awards for technical elements performed by the skater or skaters.

    Jump
    Leaving the surface of the ice under skaters own power and landing one the blades. Most jumps should be landed on the right back outside edge.

    Layback spin
    Required by Ladies in the SP, spining in an upright position, droping the head and shoulders backward and arching the back. Free leg (right) should lift up and away from the body / center of gravity. Occasionally the Gentlemen will perform them.

    Loop Jump
    Taking off from the back outside edge of one blade and landing on the back outside edge of the same skate. This is often called "Rittberger" in Europe.

    Loop
    Drawing the shape of a loop on the ice with the skaters blade. Was important in school figures, skaters occasionally include them during slow sections of free programs.

    Lutz Jump
    Named after Alois Lutz, it is using the back outside edge of the blade landing on the back outside edge of the opposite blade. Aproching backwards on a curve, tapping the toe pick on the opposite blade into the ice, rotating in the opposite direction of the enterance curve.

    "OBM"
    Olympic Bronze Medal.

    "OGM"
    Olympic Gold Medal.

    "OSM"
    Olympic Silver Medal.

    The Podium
    The place where the skaters receive their Medals during the ceremony.

    PCS
    The Program Component Score of the elements artistic qualities in the performance. Examples of such in Singles and Pairs are; choreography/composition, execution /performance, interpretation, skills and transitions.

    Referee ~ Refs
    Responsibilities; The draw/order, violations/deductions, timing of the performance, the ice surface and conduct.

    Salchow Jump
    Named after Ulrich Salchow, is taking off from the back inside edge of one foot and landing on the back outside edge of the opposite foot swinging the free leg.

    Scale of Value ~ SOV
    The tables listing each element's base value according to its difficulty.

    Scratch spin

    Starting on one forward outside edge, the free leg is extended forward with the arms out to the side. Pulling in the free leg and drawing your arms close to your body as the free skate pushes down and accelerating the spining revelutions.

    Short program ~ SP
    The first competition in junior and senior Singles and Pairs programs. There are eight required elements in the SP, which can last up to 2 minutes, 50 seconds without violation.

    "Skate Gods"
    1. Normally a way of blaming bad performances and judging on a higer power.
    2. Kurt Browning gave Scott Hamilton the title of "Skate God for Life" after his return from cancer in 97.


    Sit spin
    A spin performed in a sitting position. Low to the ice, the skater spins with one leg (the spinning leg) bent and the other leg (the free leg) extended forward.

    Step sequence/Footwork
    Choreographed steps executed at a point in the program to the music.

    Spiral
    Usally performed by Ladies, extending the free leg behind or in front of them as they glide fluidly accross the ice.

    Spiral Sequence
    Usally performed by Ladies - men have the choice to perform spirals as connecting moves, is a series of spiral possitions executed while making a specific pattern in the rink.

    Stroking
    Strides using edges to gain speed. There are various methods and patterns used for stroking, some use outside in addition to or instead of inside edges.

    Technical specialist
    They identify the elements that a skater performs during a program.

    Toe Loop Jump
    Tapping with the toe pick of the free blade on the ice to "vault" upward and landing on the back outside edge of the opposite blade.

    Toepick
    The "teeth" in the front portion of the blades, unique to figure skates. What you "pick" to grab the Ice with the tip of your blade.

    Total Element Score ~ TES
    The base values of the all the elements combined with their (positive or negative) grades of execution.

    Total Segment Score (TSS)

    Score for a single portion of the competition by Adding the total element score/TES to the program component score/PCS and subtracting any deductions achiving the TSS.

    Twizzles

    Ice dance teams are required to perform sequences of quick traveling turns performed on one blade simontaniusly and side by side, but not touching. Single or Pair skaters also include them in step sequences. Dance teams and pairs often have one partner perform a twizzle. In some variations a hand hold or touching the other partner is performed.

    "Wuzrobbed"
    1. "I think another skater should have placed higher"
    2. "boo hoo, my fave didn't win"
    3. A criminal outrage "that we need to take to the streets" and protest.
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    Seanibu - This thread will be going out of reach eventually. all of these terms and definitions are a click away from the proper link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Seanibu - This thread will be going out of reach eventually. all of these terms and definitions are a click away from the proper link.

    Joe
    Where is this link, I know of no link that has a comprehensive Glossary of terms, particularly a "friendly format" that includes terms used by posters. I don't think going as far as to include Nick names is a necessity, but for instance -

    JAT

    Just a thought.

    - could also be included for new forum members or people new to forums.

    I was thinking the point was to be self sufficient, to have a GS, by GS for GS.
    If Mathman is wrong about me having a good idea then I guess so be it.
    Anyhoo, all you Mods work it out.
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    I have a problem with the word bighting. Is that some term I never heard of or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grgranny View Post
    I have a problem with the word bighting. Is that some term I never heard of or what?
    Thank you Grgranny!

    This is where help is much appreciated, is it just said as a "tap?" - or at least bite.

    I think all of us working on this will be enlightening and maybe kinda fun.

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    Well, I'm probably the dumbest here with terminology but the word that comes to my mind is toepicking. I am very likely wrong. I don't know but it seems as if they might just use the word picking. I don't want to be critical but wouldn't it be biting instead of bighting? Not sure. I hope I'm not offending. U no hoow mugh I hate misssspeling.

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    A few comments...

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaniBu View Post
    Biellmann spin / possition
    Named for Denise Biellmann, it is performed almost exclusively by women. Skating or Spinning one one blade - the skater reaches behind them to grab on the blade of the free skate, pulling the free leg as horizontal as possable.
    I think you mean as vertical as possible. How about just saying "pulling the free leg above the head"?

    Camel spin
    One leg extended behind them in the air, parallel to the ice.
    The copyeditor in me wants to edit to "A spin performed with the free leg extended behind the skater, parallel to the ice." Actually it should also mention that the torso is leaning forward also parallel to the ice.

    Code of Points ~ COP, CoP, The code
    Point regulations for skaters decerning the point values to elements performed.
    By "decerning" do you mean "discerning"? I don't think that's the word you want here. How about defining the code of points as "A scoring system in which specific point values are assigned to each element performed." (And add a mention of grades of execution and component scores as well?)

    Free skate/Long program ~ FS, LP
    Usally the second phase of competition in singles and pairs, the first phase being the short program/SP. Lasting 4 minutes for ladies. 4 minutes,30 seconds for men, can verry 10 seconds without deduction.
    And 4:30 for senior pairs. Please specify that these time limits are for senior level -- at lower levels they're shorter.

    Layback spin
    Performed by women (internationally), spining in an upright position, droping the head and shoulders backward and arching the back.
    It's a required element for women in the short program, but some men do perform them.

    Loop
    Taking off from the back outside edge of one blade and landing on the back outside edge of the same skate.
    You need the word "jump" in here somewhere. And you might want to mention that this jump is often called "Rittberger" in Europe.
    There is also a move called a loop that involves actually drawing the shape of a loop on the ice that was important in school figures, which skaters occasionally included during slow sections of free programs but not so much any more now that hardly anyone learns and trains school figures.
    Actually you should probably start each jump definition with something like "a jump that," or include the word "jump" in the name of the element, just to be clear for anyone reading who may be completely new to skating terminology.

    Scale of Value ~ SOV
    The elements base value according to its difficulty.
    How about "The tables listing each element's base value according to its difficulty" ?

    Short program ~ SP
    The first competition in singles and pairs. There are eight required elements in the SP, which can last up to 2 minutes, 50 seconds without violation.
    Again, specify that that time limit is for junior and senior programs. (It's shorter for novice and intermediate/pre-novice.)

    Spiral
    Usally performed by Ladies, extending the free leg behind or in front of them as they glide fluidly accross the ice.

    Spiral Sequence
    Usally performed by Ladies, is a series of spiral possitions exsicuted while making a spisific pattern in the rink.
    You might want to clarify that ladies are required to do spiral sequences, whereas men have the choice to perform spirals as connecting moves.
    Correct spelling: executed, specific

    Stroking
    Strides using both inside edges to gain speed.
    There are various methods and patterns used for stroking, some use outside in addition to or instead of inside edges.

    Total Element Score ~ TES
    The judged scores combinde for all elements performed in a program.
    More accurately, "The base values of the all the elements combined with their (positive or negative) grades of execution"


    Twizzles

    Pairs performing a series of turns on a single blade simontaniusly side by side but not touching.
    What a twizzle actually is would better be defined as something like "Quick traveling turns performed on one blade."
    Then you could also mention that ice dance teams (not pairs) are required to perform sequences of synchronized twizzles side by side by not touching.
    (Single or pair skaters also include them in step sequences, a dance teams and pairs often have one partner perform a twizzle while in some variation of hand hold touching the other partner.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkelly View Post
    A few comments...
    This is great GKelly! Thank you! Awesome feedback. Did you maybe want to add one or two? I hope so, but not everyone has the fluctuation in work schedule I do, so I understand. I 'spose what I could do now is start looking things up and writing them down after I read them, but how I interpreted their meanings so as no "plagiaristic" aspects are present.

    I only tackled the Twizzel because that was the only thing I "thought" I knew with Dance specifics. I would love if the feedback that has happened would keep happening.

    I think this is a fun and cool idea. And if there are slightly differentiating ideas on how something should be defined there is no reason not to put both down.
    "Some also feel that this is a ..."

    I will keep marking the "corrections" - which in my case I am more than comfortable accepting regarding the topic - in red. And on the spelling too, I am proofreader dependent!

    I hope no one minds If I copy and paste their Definitions in place of mine, I will use red and the post with the correction suggestion will still be up. I plan on takeing NO credit for any of this, other than thinking it is a good Idea we have our own Def.s at GS for any future Members or people like me who just "think" or have an "Idea." - well and MM bring it up again and Theatregirl suggesting we could all work on it.

    Sometimes I find when I leave GS in search of something I get lost looking around and loose the time and start looking at other things etc.., hence it then remains an unsurety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grgranny View Post
    Well, I'm probably the dumbest here with terminology but the word that comes to my mind is toepicking. I am very likely wrong. I don't know but it seems as if they might just use the word picking. I don't want to be critical but wouldn't it be biting instead of bighting? Not sure. I hope I'm not offending. U no hoow mugh I hate misssspeling.
    Please be critical of me, everyone, and feel free to make fun of me if you wish as well. I try hard to be funny and so rarely am , it is nice that I can bring a smile to a face "somehow" - even at my expense . The only thing I can't handle is accusations and derogatory tones, then I get defensive, But corrections I like

    I know I should have more respect for spelling, I just don't. Particularly after learning some Japanese - "Romanji."

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    Seanibu- Try this

    http://www.skatejournal.com/techindex.html

    Google has many other too.

    Joe

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    Thanks Joe, I am sure it is good, and looked a little familiar. For some reason though, I think GS can do better - if we do it together.

    This was a place I went a few times,
    http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/faq/rules.shtml#Q7
    And very informative, but not directly connected to the coolest Forum around! IMO

    Maybe I should just use others, but as the example on the link given - Skate Journal, there are a number of them incomplete - coming soon. I could even just reference 1319, 1490, etc...

    Also people looking for answers might be inclined to see how cool GS is if they use the T and D GS could have. JAT New members you can laugh at besides my ignorance

    Anyhoo, if I should stop trying to have a GS "T and D" please, everyone stop me now.
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    this is an excellent idea for people like myself that aren't technical experts in this field. I say keep going. And it probably should be an FAQ or at least a reference.

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    I don't know if this would be the right place for this (as it is not a definition), but I would like to know if "wuzrobbed" merely refers to "I think another skater should have placed higher" or if it refers to cases that go beyond "reasonable minds can differ".

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    I think "wuzrobbed" covers the whole gamut from "boo hoo, my fave didn't win" to a criminal outrage that we need to take to the streets and protest all the way to the Supreme Court.

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