I just woke up and was reading this thread. It reads like Scott Smith Against the World. The poor guy is only seen once a year. Last year he showed he can make 4 rotations on a quad sal. Good for him. He also has a number of jumps in good shape. His spins are not wow spins but they are passable. His coaches gave him a decent routine and he looked competitive out there at Nats.
I conclude that there was much improvement over past Nats.
I agree with the comments on the Quad as a determining factor in scores. The Quad Rules!!!
Without Tim and Mike, we are looking for a third man to fill the podium. If not Scott, WHO?
(It could be one of those whippersnappers from Jrs. moving into Srs.)
Even though Kimmie is World Champ had great showing at Olymics for her first time, IMO not yet.
Well summers almost over and can't wait till the season starts up, too bad I didn't live little bit closer to Cimcinnati sounds like it going to be a great event.
It would be interesting to see this year if Smith does a performance landing a clean quads at U.S Nationals but has 3 major errors, and Weir or Lysacek do clean performances with no quads if they score around the same. At the Olympics I remember Lambiel making three major errors, but landing a clean quad, and getting almost exactly the same score as Lysacek with a clean performance. I find Smith and Lambiel's style of skating very similar, they both skate with a happy face, and do alot of the same type of skating I find. So I would be interesting to see if they judge him the same way in the same situations.
Then again chuck says they did not judge Smith that way at Nationals last year, or even Four Continents so maybe they would not judge him the same way they do Lambiel. I just find their skating style and movements on ice similar.
For the U.S. entries, it looks like they just strictly went down the list of placements at U.S. Nationals.
Ladies: Sasha, Kimmie, Emily (Katy Taylor is next if Sasha withdraws).
Men: Weir, Lysacek, (Savoie and Weiss have retired), Smith (Ryan Jahnke is next. He is another skater, like Smith, who has always been kind of on the bubble -- not bad, but not quite ready for the big show.)
Pairs: Nam and Lefteris were fifth, but the three teams ahead of them retired.
Dance: #1 and #2.
Going by the same formula, we should get Fumie and Mao, with Yoshie Onda ahead of Yukari Nakano (Arakawa having moved on). I wonder if the Japanese and Canadian Federations will do the picking, or if USFS and Campbell's will just invite who they want.
Skate Canada "accidently" published the names of Valérie Marcoux / Craig Buntin and Jessica Dubé / Bryce Davison (pairs) and Marie-France Dubreuil / Patrice Lauzon and Tessa Virtue / Scott Moir (dance) last week and later removed them... we'll have to wait and see if these teams are the ones that show up in Cincinnati.I wonder if the Japanese and Canadian Federations will do the picking, or if USFS and Campbell's will just invite who they want.
Last edited by Sylvia; 08-22-2006 at 11:00 AM.
This made up for not being able to do a triple Axel (Lysacek did two, one in combination) and falling on his Lutz (Lysacek earned 11.0 points for his opening 3Lz/3T).
No matter how I massage the numbers, I just can't see Scott coming up with a 150 point LP. His all-time highest is 125.51 -- and this was in the 2003 experimental season, when the CoP was brand new and all the scores were way over-inflated. If fact, Sasha Cohen got 130.89 in her LP in the same event as Scott's best.
Last edited by Mathman; 08-22-2006 at 11:15 AM.
Of course, it's impossible to say whether the Nepala judges overscored, or whether the Olympics judges underscored, or both.
MM, you are right. I went over Smith's numbers for 4CC.
In the SP, Scott's jumps were all landed but he got -GOE, and -GOE on his combination spn as well. A clean SP would have given him an extra 4.51 points, for a SP total of 66.35 (4th place in the SP, behind 3 quadless men).
In the FS, he had two major errors: he did only a 2S instead of his 4S, and he doubled his lutz. If he had landed the quad and the 3Z, he would have added 10.11 points to his score, for a FS total of 133.52 points and a grand total of 199.87---enough to place him 1st in the FS, but 2nd overall behind Oda, who had many errrors in his FS.
If Scott can't break the 200 mark in total points with two clean programs, he can't beat Lysacek and Weir unless they both crumble completely. Weir skated with an injury at Worlds 2006 and still scored a SP/FS total of over 202. Lysacek had a flawed SP, but scored 220 points.
The only way for Smith to be a big winner is total clean skating plus a massive charisma infusion. The way he skates now, his PCS scores will hold him back.
Am I the only one who finds Scott Smith and Lambiel have a similar skating style? I dont see why if he lands the same jumps they would not be scored similar since they have a similar style. I admit to being more new to figure skating though, and I am still learning. I just find they look like they skate in a similar way.
See esp the 2006 sectionals pix (great hair and costumes)!
Last edited by Sylvia; 08-22-2006 at 01:07 PM.