We have to understand a thing, skating is a subjective sport/art, and it will always be, regardless of the system of judging.
You got it, down to a T actually. There's just no getting around it. As long as judges exist, it's subjective.
We have to understand a thing, skating is a subjective sport/art, and it will always be, regardless of the system of judging.
For each element each judge gives one Grade of Execution score for the entire element as a whole. The rules for jumps say only that they are supposed to take into consideration "the height, length, technique and clean starting and landing."Does anyone know if the Goe's are given for the whole jump or different parts of the jump; like a good rotation vs a smooth flowing landing or the hight of the jump.
For each element each judge gives one Grade of Execution score for the entire element as a whole. The rules say only that they are supposed to take into consideration "the height, length, technique and clean starting and landing."
If the skater does one part extra well, but is weak in another area, those pluses and minuses can cancel, so a judge might give out a 0 GOE total.
The guidelines for what constitutes an extra good effort seem to be pretty sparse. But there are very specific guidelines as to what kind of mistakes should result in negative GOEs. Here is the document that spells this out (scroll down to page three):
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-175231-192449-94938-0-file,00.pdf
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Does anyone know if the Goe's are giving for the whole jump or different parts of the jump; like a good rotation vs a smooth flowing landing or the hight of the jump.
-touchdown with one foot or one hand;
-long entry phase (telegraphed);
-short change of edge in take-off of flip or lutz;
-weak landing (land on wrong edge or toe, etc.)
mathman said:There are specific guidelines for giving out negative GOEs. On the plus side, I don't know exactly what you have to do to get a +3 GOE. I don't think I have ever seen seen one, even by a single judge, and I have looked at literally thousands of these scores, LOL. For most elements a 0 GOE is quite an acceptible result and a +1 is a sweet bonus.
Actually, I did have a question about one of those FIFTY-SEVEN PERFECT 6.0S that Michelle won over the course of her career.I totally agree. People will always question - well MK's 6.0? Yes that is true someone will always question.
Actually, I did have a question about one of those FIFTY-SEVEN PERFECT 6.0S that Michelle won over the course of her career.