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Surprise Dance Results

nymkfan51

Medalist
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Not by much, though ... and this is only the CD.

1 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 36.86 18.82 18.04 7.25 7.05 7.35 7.25 0.00 #5
2 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 36.75 18.26 18.49 7.50 7.20 7.45 7.45 0.00 #7
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 31.61 16.16 15.45 6.35 5.95 6.15 6.30 0.00 #3
4 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 30.20 16.24 13.96 5.80 5.35 5.60 5.60 0.00 #9
5 Anastasia GREBENKINA / Vazgen AZROJAN ARM 29.19 15.32 13.87 5.65 5.40 5.60 5.55 0.00 #1
6 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 28.25 15.14 13.11 5.40 5.10 5.15 5.30 0.00 #10
7 Lauren SENFT / Leif GISLASON CAN 27.70 15.04 12.66 5.30 4.80 5.10 5.05 0.00 #11
8 Mylene GIRARD / Bradley YAEGER CAN 26.00 13.58 12.42 5.10 4.75 5.15 4.90 0.00 #2
9 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN 23.17 12.64 10.53 4.55 3.95 4.15 4.15 0.00 #8
10 Olga AKIMOVA / Alexander SHAKALOV UZB 22.33 12.88 10.45 4.35 3.95 4.20 4.25 1.00 #6
11 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 21.86 11.74 10.12 4.20 3.85 4.05 4.10 0.00 #4
 

lanadd

On the Ice
Joined
Oct 23, 2006
yes i know i know:) But the score of B/A is not good for a olympic silver medalist:)
 

aphrodite_xl

On the Ice
Joined
Oct 29, 2005
It says here that B&A had a stumble in their CD, which might explain their marks. I haven't seen B&A's OD and FD yet, and only some parts of Domnina and Shabalin's FD, their Tango is very strong. I think this competition will be decided in the Free Dance.
 
Joined
Jul 11, 2003
Not surprised at all. It's time for Dom/Shab to be considered a serious run for the gold in Tokyo.

The Americans only sent one team :confused:

Joe
 

lanadd

On the Ice
Joined
Oct 23, 2006
IMO it will be very difficult for the russians to take the gold at worlds but why not the bronze
 

Tesla

Final Flight
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Dec 28, 2005
It says here that B&A had a stumble in their CD, which might explain their marks. I haven't seen B&A's OD and FD yet, and only some parts of Domnina and Shabalin's FD, their Tango is very strong. I think this competition will be decided in the Free Dance.

That explains why B/A are 2nd.
 

cloudkicker09

Final Flight
Joined
Oct 30, 2006
YES THE ZARETSKIS ARE IN 4TH!!!!

HOPEFULLY THEY CAN MOVE UP IN THIRD and GET THE BRONZE

Hey I got a great idea to end this debate of BA vs BS give the Zaretskis the gold

Dom/Shab-great another held up russian pair.....this is why the sport is going down in popularity, the results often appear to be fixed, and the Russians always win...

please do not flame me
 

Kasey

Medalist
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Jul 27, 2003
YES THE ZARETSKIS ARE IN 4TH!!!!

HOPEFULLY THEY CAN MOVE UP IN THIRD and GET THE BRONZE

Hey I got a great idea to end this debate of BA vs BS give the Zaretskis the gold

Dom/Shab-great another held up russian pair.....this is why the sport is going down in popularity, the results often appear to be fixed, and the Russians always win...

please do not flame me

Um, another poster mentioned that Belbin/Agosto had a stumble...and are in 2nd behind Domnina/Shabalin by less than a full tenth of a point. How the heck is that "Another held up Russian pair"?? Have you SEEN the event yourself, to see whether or not your assessment of this "fixed" sport is accurate? Or are you just yet another troll wanting to be allowed to "flame" other people and skaters, but then asking that you and your opinions not be addressed, respectfully, by people who disagree? I have seen Domnina/Shabalin live before, and they have very nice ice coverage, and are a good, smooth team that is just going to get better in time. Perhaps it is idiotic of me to suggest that you SEE the event before claiming that certain skaters are held up and the results are fixed.

Oh, and by the way? I believe the current World dance champions are Bulgarian....not Russian....
 
Joined
Jul 11, 2003
In SA, the Miss Zaretski wore a costume that looked like it was tailored by a Hassidic. (that 1930s/40s style. But in the OD and FD the costumes became more up-to-date.

Mr. Zaretski makes awful grimaces while he dances. That's not JMO.

Joe
 

scs

Rinkside
Joined
Aug 31, 2006
The difference between the first and second place scores are very close...the stumble and Belbin's statement (not sure of the exact wording) about not being at their best make sense.
Looks like Senft/Gislason and again going to be challenged throughout the season by Girard/Yaegar. I believe that S/G had an injury last season so, in spite of G/Y's strong performances, their placement ahead of S/G remained perhaps a little questionable. Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed G/Y each time I have seen them, on tv and live and don't mind S/G but there seemed to be a push for S/G at the national level.
 

icesk8erdude4e

Rinkside
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Nov 7, 2006
AHA they stumbled and I guess that's what explains it well. I was fixing to say, that Belbin and Agosto are definately a better team than the Russians. We'll see only the free dance will tell what happens. I certainly hope that the Russians don't emerge the way that Navka and Kostomarov did in 2003 by going undefeated all season.
 

lanadd

On the Ice
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Oct 23, 2006
AHA they stumbled and I guess that's what explains it well. I was fixing to say, that Belbin and Agosto are definately a better team than the Russians. We'll see only the free dance will tell what happens. I certainly hope that the Russians don't emerge the way that Navka and Kostomarov did in 2003 by going undefeated all season.

Who say that the americans are better then the russians? I dont think so
 

hockeyfan228

Record Breaker
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Jul 26, 2003
I certainly hope that the Russians don't emerge the way that Navka and Kostomarov did in 2003 by going undefeated all season.
If you mean that N/K went undefeated in 2003, they won bronze at Europeans and were fourth in DC after Bourne/Kraatz, Lobacheva/Averbukh, and Denkova/Staviyski. L/A won gold in Malmo and DenSta won silver. Grushina/Goncharov beat them at least once in the GP earlier in the season.

It wasn't until the 2003-4 season that N/K went undefeated. (They lost the F/D to DenSta at SC, but won the competition by about 3 points.)
 
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aphrodite_xl

On the Ice
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Oct 29, 2005
Original Dance results

1 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 58.90 29.40 29.50 7.75 7.70 7.80 7.85 7.75 0.00 #9
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 58.42 29.60 28.82 7.60 7.45 7.65 7.65 7.60 0.00 #10
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 53.98 28.70 25.28 6.60 6.55 6.70 6.65 6.75 0.00 #5
4 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 48.64 26.90 21.74 5.90 5.60 5.65 5.75 5.70 0.00 #11
5 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 47.61 26.70 20.91 5.55 5.35 5.55 5.60 5.50 0.00 #7
6 Anastasia GREBENKINA / Vazgen AZROJAN ARM 46.31 24.30 22.01 5.85 5.65 5.75 5.85 5.85 0.00 #8
7 Lauren SENFT / Leif GISLASON CAN 43.73 24.60 20.13 5.35 5.30 5.20 5.40 5.25 1.00 #4
8 Mylene GIRARD / Bradley YAEGER CAN 42.91 22.90 20.01 5.35 5.15 5.20 5.40 5.25 0.00 #6
9 Olga AKIMOVA / Alexander SHAKALOV UZB 39.18 22.20 16.98 4.65 4.45 4.40 4.60 4.30 0.00 #3
10 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN 39.03 22.10 16.93 4.75 4.40 4.50 4.35 4.30 0.00 #2
11 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 37.69 22.00 15.69 4.30 4.05 4.15 4.20 4.00 0.00 #1
 

nadster

Final Flight
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Feb 1, 2004
Looks like Senft/Gislason and again going to be challenged throughout the season by Girard/Yaegar. I believe that S/G had an injury last season so, in spite of G/Y's strong performances, their placement ahead of S/G remained perhaps a little questionable. Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed G/Y each time I have seen them, on tv and live and don't mind S/G but there seemed to be a push for S/G at the national level.

This could be part of the battle for 3rd place at nationals after L/Markovs's disappointing performances at SA and Canadians. Their scores thus far have been over 10 points behind their personal best. 3rd place at nationals ( and a spot on the world team ) is really open to all three of these couples.
 

Ptichka

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Jul 28, 2003
Yes, B&A are generally a stronger team than D&S. However, the latter spent the whole Summer and Fall meticilously preparing for this season. B&A, OTOH, had other priorities. This is NOT a slam. They had two kick-a** seasons, they certainly deserve to have some fun. Even before this competition, there were reports that they just pieced their free program together. My guess is that they didn't even have time to really practice compulsories as they had to get their OD and FD ready. So, while I can't say I'm not surprised, I can certainly believe this is a fair result (until I see differently).
 

Bubblejack

Rinkside
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Mar 10, 2006
canadians

Actually Mr.Yager had surgery on his knee, I think sometime this summer.and Mr. Gislason had back injury or something to that effect.. And please contenders at Nationals for a Podium finish Please???????????
 

rain

Record Breaker
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Jul 29, 2003
Very interesting. Looks to me like a bit of the backlash against B/A's meteoric rise continues. And don't get me wrong, I'm sure D/S are a quality couple, but this smacks to me of the deliberate insertion of the next dominant Russian team. It was practically inevitable. In fact, I'm pretty sure I predicted exactly this kind of movement in at least one post around the time of N/K's retirement. Suddenly D/S are challenging two-time world medalists and Olympic silver medalists? Nah, this is politics.
 

Vash01

Medalist
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Jul 31, 2003
Very interesting. Looks to me like a bit of the backlash against B/A's meteoric rise continues. And don't get me wrong, I'm sure D/S are a quality couple, but this smacks to me of the deliberate insertion of the next dominant Russian team. It was practically inevitable. In fact, I'm pretty sure I predicted exactly this kind of movement in at least one post around the time of N/K's retirement. Suddenly D/S are challenging two-time world medalists and Olympic silver medalists? Nah, this is politics.

Had the situation been reversed (B&A rising suddenly in their marks), I am not sure that you would have questioned it the way you did with DomShab. First of all, DomShab could have worked hard and improved over last year. Second, when B&A appeared on the scene, they moved up very quickly. Did you interpret that as an effort to insert a dominant North American team to replace B&K?

DomShab are actually a pretty good ice dance team. I liked them a lot at last year's worlds. They don't have a star quality yet, since they are not used to winning competitions but they have very good technique, and creative programs.

In terms of placements, it is not a surprise that DomShab are in second place overall, after the OD. This is a pretty weak field (Den-Sta and Del-Schoel who are among the top teams were not at this GP). In terms of marks, they are close to B&A's. CD could be DomShab's strong area. B&A did win the OD, but it sounds like you wanted them to blow away the field and it did not happen, so you are questioning the marks. You may still get your wish after the FD, but I doubt that it will be a landslide victory for B&A. I expect that DomShab made some improvements during summer, while B&A were busy touring with COI (nothing wrong with touring, I am just thinking that touring keeps skaters from working on their competitive programs, although financially it is a good opportunity for them).

BTW Virtue and Moir placed second at SC, ahead of the more experienced Faela &Scali. Would you question that as an effort to move Canadians up? Probably not.
 
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