Two secret elements necessary in winning the Olympic Ladies Gold Medal and LP

christinaskater · Nov 24, 2006

Two secret elements necessary in winning the Olympic Ladies Gold Medal and LP

You need to skate well but since Kristi Yamaguchi i have observed certain things they do to win!

1. donut or any biellman position since 92
2. Illusion spin-all the Olympic champions have done this!!! Since Kristi!!

christinaskater · Nov 24, 2006

I mean, it wouldn't mean if you do this you would win! These are certain things the Olympic champions did in their LP! The more esteemed ones didn't (Ito, Kerrigan, Kwan, Slutskaya) and i guess they didn't make it!

But with Yamaguchi, Baiul, Lipinski, Hughes and Arakawa, they did these elements somewhere in their LP's I guess the coaches noted this!:chorus:

Tonichelle · Nov 24, 2006

Slutskaya only uses the Bielmann, so technically your theory doesnt work for her...

chuckm · Nov 24, 2006

I HATE the illusion spin. I think it is a cheap ugly trick.

Ptichka · Nov 24, 2006

Tonichelle said:
Slutskaya only uses the Bielmann, so technically your theory doesnt work for her...

Slutskaya never won Olympics

R.D. · Nov 24, 2006

Nah, as Arakawa showed you just need to stand up. And as Hughes and Lipinski showed you need to be willing to take RISKS. The only recent exception of course is Arakawa who happened to be the only one in the last group who didn't make some big mistake.

Besides, MK and IS fell in their last Olympics so that didn't help them out any.

Tonichelle · Nov 24, 2006

Ptichka said:
Slutskaya never won Olympics

which is why I said what I did... according to the theory - a biellman or donut spin helps your chances... that's all Slutskaya does is the Biellman and she never won.... I'm well aware that she doesn't have that gold medal

Fernan · Nov 24, 2006

Tonichelle said:
which is why I said what I did... according to the theory - a biellman or donut spin helps your chances... that's all Slutskaya does is the Biellman and she never won.... I'm well aware that she doesn't have that gold medal

I remember the joke on another board was--if Irina could jump in biellmann position, she would! HAHAHAH

Though for some odd reason, I think she's tried doing that...

riverflows · Nov 24, 2006

Wearing blue/not-red helps too. :rofl:

R.D. · Nov 24, 2006

She wore blue in 2002 and that still didn't do it for her.

attyfan · Nov 24, 2006

Red Dog said:
She wore blue in 2002 and that still didn't do it for her.

Well, at least Irina didn't fall in 2002 -- when MK wore blue in '98, she landed all her triples, too. OTOH, wearing red seems to be related to falls (MK in '02; Irina and Sasha in '06)

mskater93 · Nov 25, 2006

Kristi wore red in her Maleguena program in 92, though, so that throws that theory out.

soogar · Nov 25, 2006

mskater93 said:
Kristi wore red in her Maleguena program in 92, though, so that throws that theory out.

Kristi wore black and gold. But Kat won '84 in berry and 88 in red.

riverflows · Nov 25, 2006

I mean post-Kristi Yamaguchi. Since her, all but one OGM (Oksana Baiul) has worn some shade of blue to win.

christinaskater · Nov 25, 2006

I really tell you try watching the Ladies FP and you can see these elements!
They were told to me by a top Olympic coach controvertial with his talents in one way! But a brilliant coach indeed! It helps uplift the Olympic tempo! THese secret elements which they included! So even if you did this but you flunked the jumps you will definitely not win anything!

Ladskater · Nov 26, 2006

chuckm said:
I HATE the illusion spin. I think it is a cheap ugly trick.

I love the illusion spin. According to the history books: "The illusion spin was accidentally invented by Jacqueline du Bief when she lost control on the entrance to a camel spin." It's great when it is done correctly.

Fernan · Nov 26, 2006

Ladskater said:
I love the illusion spin. According to the history books: "The illusion spin was accidentally invented by Jacqueline du Bief when she lost control on the entrance to a camel spin." It's great when it is done correctly.

was it Jacqueline? for some reason, i read it was Gabi Seyfert (same thing--lost balance on a camel, and just repeated the mistake again and again)

R.D. · Nov 26, 2006

I suppose these "secret" elements aren't so secret after all

gio · Nov 26, 2006

Ladskater said:
I love the illusion spin. According to the history books: "The illusion spin was accidentally invented by Jacqueline du Bief when she lost control on the entrance to a camel spin." It's great when it is done correctly.

I also love the illusion spin. Unfortunately we don't see them too much in eligible programs.
Anyway thanx for the interesting story of the invention of this spin. It's funny that a beautiful element was born because of an error on another element.

BravesSkateFan · Nov 26, 2006

riverflows said:
I mean post-Kristi Yamaguchi. Since her, all but one OGM (Oksana Baiul) has worn some shade of blue to win.

Sarah wore purple, not blue....

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