Pairs free and Final results are up

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http://www.isufs.org/results/gpjpn06/SEG006.HTM

1 Xue SHEN / Hongbo ZHAO CHN 190.97 1 1
2 Dan ZHANG / Hao ZHANG CHN 181.87 2 2
3 Valerie MARCOUX / Craig BUNTIN CAN 163.37 3 3
4 Utako WAKAMATSU / Jean-Sebastien FECTEAU CAN 145.41 4 4
5 Julia VLASSOV / Drew MEEKINS USA 135.45 6 5
6 Julia OBERTAS / Sergei SLAVNOV RUS 132.19 5 6
7 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR 113.70 7 7
8 Mari VARTMANN / Florian JUST GER 108.24 8 9
9 Rumiana SPASSOVA / Stanimir TODOROV BUL 106.79 9 8


A whopping 9 points ahead were Shen & Zhao!!! YAY! i'm so pleased for them. They even had a two point deduction (i presume for two falls?)

And the British pair weren't last!!! HUrray!

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Congrats to S/.Z. They are just miles ahead of everyone.

 

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What happened to Obertas and Slavnov? They've been around for some time now and I thought this season would put them in the top 5 Worlds Pairs. Well, let's see what happens in Euros.

Nice for Valerie and Craig. Long overdue.

Wow! Nice Julia and Drew.

Joe

 

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Joesitz said:

What happened to Obertas and Slavnov? They've been around for some time now and I thought this season would put them in the top 5 Worlds Pairs. Well, let's see what happens in Euros.

Nice for Valerie and Craig. Long overdue.

Wow! Nice Julia and Drew.

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I think obertas & Slavnov had 3 or 4 points deducted so i think they may have had a splat fest.

Out of interested - in paris if both skaters fall on e.g. SBS jumps do they get -2 one -1 each fora fall?

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Wow! The American team beat the Russian team!

 

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Joesitz said:

What happened to Obertas and Slavnov? They've been around for some time now and I thought this season would put them in the top 5 Worlds Pairs. Well, let's see what happens in Euros.

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This season they went back to their original coaches - the Velikovs; things just weren't working with Moskvina for them.

 

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antmanb said:

Out of interested - in paris if both skaters fall on e.g. SBS jumps do they get -2 one -1 each fora fall?

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I think there's only -1 deduction for a fall of both on the same element.

 

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antmanb said:

Out of interested - in paris if both skaters fall on e.g. SBS jumps do they get -2 one -1 each fora fall?

Ant

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Should be -2

 

antmanb

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Ok so maybe both Obertas & Slavnov fell on a SBS jump and then another fall from one of them.

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I'm a little concerned that it appears a two-fall program from S/Z beat a no-fall program from Z/Z. The Zhangs aren't my favorite team and I think they still have a long way to go on the artistry, but for S/Z to beat them so handily with a very flawed skate worries me. It speaks to the need for some kind of reward for the skaters for skating a clean program. Not necessarily enough to swing an event, but it should be a few points at least, IMO. In the past in pairs this is often how we could see new pairs emerge — by them beating more established pairs when the latter would falter on some of the technical elements and the newbies skated clean. Numerous falls really do marr a program, and that should be reflected in the marks.

 

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S/Z didn't fall. From ISU article:

However, the couple lacked speed and finished six seconds after the allowed time of 4.40 minutes. As a result, they got two points deduction.

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i love Shen & Zhao

 

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Yes!!!!! Congratulate Shen&Zhao! I love their skating, and so happy for them.

 

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Another hurray for Shen and Zhao!

 

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According to the ISU Day 2 Article, S/Z's 2-point deduction was for being 6 seconds over the 4'40" time limit; there's a 1 point deduction for every 5 seconds (or part there-of) over the time limit. Zhao said they went over because they didn't have enough time for their final lift. Shen revealed that she's injured (right foot) and had a bad toothache.

Zhang and Zhang each doubled the planned 3T's in combination, and Dan Zhang doubled the solo 3S.

 

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Tesla said:

S/Z didn't fall. From ISU article:

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Ah, thank you for the clarification. This makes me feel better about it. A time deduction is one thing, falls are another.

 

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antmanb said:

Out of interest - in paris if both skaters fall on e.g. SBS jumps do they get -2 one -1 each for a fall?

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I think Zyyr is correct that it should be -2. This seems to be a new rule this year, or at least they changed the wording of the rule to make it clear. (See page 22).

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-178078-195296-111175-0-file,00.pdf

 

antmanb

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Thanks for the clarification MM

Ant