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What thrills you?
A lot of disagreements about skaters seem to come from the fact that fans are looking for different things in skaters, competitions, and shows. So, leaving apart the question of which skaters you like, what quality or ability are you looking for that thrills you when you find it? It could get boring if everyone says they're looking for the complete package, so try to be specific.
I'm looking for someone who looks like a natural - one who has the God-given ability to float, fly and spin on ice and look beautiful while doing impossible things. Sometimes I also admire the less gifted ones who may work harder to achieve their presentation marks - but they don't thrill me.
I'm looking for something distinctive and musical in choreography - something where the piece as a whole has a distinct flavor. I'm thrilled when the skater is also an artist who conveys the special quality of the choreography.
I like committed performing and passion. I'll forgive a technical flaw for the thrill of a skater putting it all out there.
This is kind of vague! What do other folks think?
I get weak in the knees for Russian splits with lots of air, great flex and extension, and a big smile....ah yes....airborne splits will always get me.
I miss seeing pairs skating as it was with G&G...the fluidity of movement, the grace, the inherent connection between two people skating as one. I don't see that, and I do not think it's because of CoP or anything; there's just no one that grabs me!
Spirals...like Sasha's! I never get sick of seeing that, or Shizuka's Ina Bauer.
~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~
You should check out vintage footage of Toller Cranston on Youtube. Toller did the best Russian Split jump I have ever seen. I think even the Russians admired his ability at this jump. It's awesome.
Originally Posted by Zanzibar
~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~
I guess what grabs me is a skater like Kurt Browning or Jeff Buttle. It's the way they move across the ice and use their edges and musicality. They make it seem easy and flow using deep edges. I can almost feel myself skating with them. I love a skater who understands the music and listens to it, the way Toller Cranston does when he skates. It's almost balletic like. These type of skaters are not just skating to the music they are listening and feeling and interpreting the music.
Gadfly and Bon Vivant
I tend to the formalistic approach so I like interesting variations based on a bedrock of great basic skills.
I like jumps with the take off and landing on the right edges landed with some flow . Extreme height and more revolutions don't do much for me (despite a lingering fondness for the female 3ax).
I like fast, well-centered spins in aesthetically pleasing postions.
I like "edgy" light, fast footwork rather than chopping veggies and/or frantic arms.
I like it when everything the skater does seems to come from the blade up rather than the upper body down (hard to explain, that's the best I can do right now).
I like extension (not the same as flexibility at all).
Might sound like basic stuff, but who can do that now?
I like more athletic women and graceful men more than fairy princesses and guys trying to be jocks (Ito and Wylie over Cohen and Stojko, for example).
Gotta Have Music
Russian Split Jumps, Ina Bauers, Spread Eagles, intricate footwork (Kurt's!), fast centered spins, music well suited to the skater, etc. ...
Especially men´s skating: To me it is important that the skater has speed and looks effortless without long hesitations before a jump. Also I have allways prefered skaters who jump high, have beautiful air position including soft landings with a flow. I admire great footwork, but not that showy toepicking which is not even difficult.
Also the skater needs to have a bodytype which is pleasant to the eye. He does not need to be tall (with tall I mean about 5" 11), a shorter skater with a good bodytype will also do.
I like a skater to skate with his whole body and not just with legs, so to speak.
Edging, flow and musicality. Anything else is not ice skating but tricks performed on ice like barrel jumping.
I love someone who is competitive. I like to be able to relax while watching my favorite skater. I love knowing that this person came to skate. I of course love someone with beautiful jumps with beautiful air positions. I love a beautiful layback. We just don't see good one's anymore.
I love watching someone who is musical. I also like watching someone who has the joy of skating on their face. The last thing I want is to watch someone who looks like they are just doing their job.
One other thing I like is a program with a beginning a middle and a end. Dick Buttons says that all the time. I have such an empty feeling when people don't end their routines.
Last edited by flying camel; 12-21-2006 at 01:40 PM.
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ITA! Toller was incredible!
Originally Posted by Ladskater
Power and fluidity combined
Complex choreography with a clear point of view -- whether interpreting the music at a very detailed level, playing a character/telling a story, etc.
Any kind of program that makes me feel like my heart is in my throat and tears in my eyes. It's never about a specific move, but about the feeling the skate evokes. Michelle's exhibitions (Fields of Gold, You Raise Me Up) are a great example of that, for me, or Aranjunez, as she starts the FW to the final pose. Actuallly, as a Michelle fan, I've learned to LOVE the final moments, when she's skated well and the crowd is in her hand and then she finishes, wow, the look in her eye as she tears up gets me every time (Tosca, Aranjuez, Lyra, Salome...)
But if I have to pick a specific element that I look forward to, it's probably FW, when done well, to the music, and not a lot of arm flailing. Or a jump that is landed securely, with a deep flowing edge, that is held out.
A. Y. & E. P.: Tzars Of The Ice, Lords Of The Rink
I love it when a skater performs a spread eagle or spiral or something akin to that during (here's the catch) a crescendo in an emotional piece of music. Of course as long as the music is emotional there's not really a necessity for there to be a crescendo for these moves, but it is thrilling for me to see, personally.
I also love to see rarely-used moves like the flying Kulik and the Abt spin.
I would normally say that a skater using a Jerry Goldsmith composition thrills me, but sadly that thrill does not last long, as most programs I have seen to Goldsmith's scores have not done him any justice. In my opinion, if a skater can skate to Jerry Goldsmith well, they deserve respect for life! (for the record only 2 skaters that I've seen have done him justice; Todd Eldredge's First Knight, and Shen/Zhao's Mulan.)
what didn't kill me-made me stronger!
First, I just love russian skaters.
Second...yeah, there are thousands of talented American or Japanese skaters, they do triples at age of 13, they are stretchy, they are perfect...BUT IT DOESNT THRILL ME. They are all the same, they have the same technic, and they are just "one person in a million of those"...For me it's amazing when there shows up someone from non-skating country, someone who comes "out of nowere" ...Like Fleur Maxwell or Elene Gedevanishvilli....or CARO KOSTNER ...
It's more fascinating for me when a 12 years old slovenian girl does clean double axel than when japanese one jumps triples at age of 13...
But the most imortant thing is that...I dont know, just to see SOMETHING in a skater..something that is beautiful and it's not the same as things other skaters have. And that is what thrills me.