View Poll Results: Whose skating do you prefer more?

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  • Oksana Baiul's

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  • Yuka Sato's

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Thread: Baiul vs Sato

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    Baiul vs Sato

    Whose skating do you appreciate more, Sato's or Baiul's?

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    Do you mean now? There is no comparison.

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    No, I don't mean now. I mean in terms of overall contribution to the sport. That does include their competitive years.

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    I don't think there is a question.

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    Yuka Sato... she has improved over the years... Biaul has gone no where but down. She is so embarassing to watch anymore... Yuka has always been a joy. Oksana is only a shadow of what she once was...

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    I was never much of a fan of Baiul's-- even when the press was gushing about her prior to the Olympics. I don't believe she should have won the OGM, and had CoP been in place back then, I don't think she would have.

    Sato, on the other hand, is like silk. One never hears her blades on the ice, and she clearly enjoys skating.

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    Add me to the list of people who never really understood Baiul - i think she looks like she has really stiff knees in the performances i've seen and i was NOT really taken by her Olympic performances. Yuka, on the other hand, is a delight to watch - her basic skating and edging are almost unmatched and even now in her pro years she is still whipping off triple loops as if they are nothing. Not only that she's managed to pick up pairs very well and cas a cracking throw triple salchow!

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    Last edited by antmanb; 01-12-2007 at 09:01 AM. Reason: edited to add "not"!

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    Give me Yuka any day! I love her skating as a singles skater & as a pair skater with Jason. I was impressed with her as an eliglble skater, and am even more impressed with her as a pro. She is a joy to watch on the ice.

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    In defense of Oksana

    Quote Originally Posted by antmanb View Post
    Add me to the list of people who never really understood Baiul - i think she looks like she has really stiff knees in the performances i've seen and i was NOT really taken by her Olympic performances. Yuka, on the other hand, is a delight to watch - her basic skating and edging are almost unmatched and even now in her pro years she is still whipping off triple loops as if they are nothing. Not only that she's managed to pick up pairs very well and cas a cracking throw triple salchow!

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    Well, I think everyone's being too harsh on Oksana. Consider two important things.

    1.) She was decent in her first few years as a pro. She landed her jumps and skated her programs with a passion. She was responding to the music emotionally and allowed herself to be inspired and carried away by the music.

    2.) In the last few years, she has regained many of her jumps. I have watched many pro performances where she landed a few triples and doubles. Perhaps, that doesn't compare with Sato's consistency, but it's still respectable. Many skaters don't attempt to regain their jumps in their pro career and some let them go altogether. Oksana has made the attempt to retrain her jumping technique. The results are somewhat sketchy, but she has had some progres.

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    I think a fairer comparison may have been Nancy Kerrigan or someone IMO. Yuka just seemed to get even better pro, going into pairs and continues to turn out some fantastic pros with her hubby too - that is just so darling and heart warming. Ice Wars 05 was a pretty good example of the best Oksi can be compared to Yuka lately(Oksana's Bunny Hops were incredible but don't recall one in 06???)....and 06 IW is ... well... it just was a let down from the "skating / choreography" aspect and Oksana past (comparison to Oksi of old or not). I can't recall ever being "let down" per say by Yuka.

    I don't think this is a question of not liking Oksi, but the comparison it's self is just a stretch. Oksana has been though a lot of "tribulations" in her life (lest we forget life is relative) and I like her and admire what she is, as long as I believe she is true to herself now - which is still speculation. I still think she is attractive / sexy lady and might be looking for the validation that others still do as well - this acutely seems to be more important to her then her skating though whether she is regaining the jumps or not what it appears to be the most important thing is her appeal. But she and Yuka are just so different in their careers.
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    I always found Biaul overrated. I much prefered the overall skating of Sato, Chen, Kerrigan, and even Chouinaurd(when she stood up her jumps)to anything Biaul brought while they where all amateur skaters in 93 and 94 in fact. Bonaly had her flaws but her jumping standard brought more to the table then anything Biaul brought for me, and I was happy that Bonaly beat her to win those 2 European titles. Harding I much prefered to watch when she was in shape to Biaul. Sorry I just didnt get her, she took forever to set up her jumps, her programs consisted of so much plain stroking and limited number of in between movements, her long programs included only 3 spins, all of them pretty short, and a short little spiral sequence, she had one string of moves between each jump or spin which could be interpreted as either an incredably posing attempt at a footwork sequence, but she had no true footwork sequence in her free skate at all. Her posture wasnt impressive at all, she skated from the waist up more then the skate up, and her moves looked coltish rather then mature or exquisite to me.

    I love Yuka's skating. She was one of the most underrated skaters as an amateur, her long program at the 94 Olympics was the slam dunk skate of the night and was placed only 5th by the judges. Her spins were excellent, her footwork was the best in the World, her spirals and moves in the field were more then adequate, her jumps were also solid. Her basic skating, edge quality, flow, was impeccable. Her skating as an amateur lacked the emotion and passion it has now though, as a pro she blossomed even more but as an amateur she was underrated while Biaul was much overrated. I prefered Yuka even as an amateur no matter what their competitive records were, as a pro I would rather watch Yuka 20 times in a row then watch Biaul slouched over two-footed jumps laboured clunker Madonna wanabee programs once.
    Last edited by slutskayafan21; 01-12-2007 at 01:32 PM.

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    Sean - when you abbreviate programs and talk about a 'pro' skater in the same dialogue it's extremely difficult to understand what you're saying... if you want to shorten program maybe you should use 'prog' ?

    just a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    just a suggestion.
    Thanks, I am always open to suggestion. ITA.

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    thanks so much... i'm easily confused as it is! LOL any help to keep me from that state is great!

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