In your opinion can Tugba learn also the triple lutz, flip and loop. Or is she to old? IMO, if she starts to land also those jumps, she can become competitive at Euros.
In your opinion can Tugba learn also the triple lutz, flip and loop. Or is she to old? IMO, if she starts to land also those jumps, she can become competitive at Euros.
Reading an article about Tugba lately, she says that she wants to be world champion! If she is going to do that, she will need to land those all of those jumps! I wish here all the best! I bet she is working on them, but still is looking for the consistency that she needs to put them into her programs.
Reading an article about Tugba lately, she says that she wants to be world champion!
good for her though, it's cool to think bigshe'll have to take small steps to the top IMO though.
Getting past the jumps, I think the main thing she needs to do is SPEED IT UP. Her programs are wonderful, but she is quite SLOW. Once she works THAT out, then she should think about the jumps. It is harder to get them once you get older, but not impossible. (It's certainly a better deal then having them at 14 and losing them by 17.)
How old is Tugba? She is a lovely performer.
She was born in 1985. In March she'll be 22 years old.
At this year Euros she tried the triple flip. I think it wasn't underrotated, but she stepped out of it.
Karademir was credited with rotating a triple flip in her FS at Euros (-3 GOE). She will turn 22 in March -- link to her ISU bio:
http://www.isufs.org/bios/isufs00005502.htm
Official site (in Turkish and English): http://www.tugbakarademir.org/
does she have enough training time?
I read an article a couple of days ago describing China's Pang & Tong training 8 hours preparing for the asian winter games. It says they do two ice sessions and two dry-land session A DAY! I don't know whether the number is simply exaggeration or misunderstanding by the reporters though.
Tugba's ISU bio suggests she only trains about 10-15 hours a week. That's not merely enough for an elite skater.
Originally Posted by iloveaxel
THe chinese are still under the communist rule, so thier training is totally diffrent than ours. What we call hard core training is just the begining for them. Read The Second Mark by a wonderful author Joy Goodwin for an inside look at how the chinese pairs really dedicate thier lives to training.
Anyway, no ten hours a week is only 2 hours five days a week. Okay for juvinille level, not for a world champ with a lot of work to do.
being someone who was born January of 85, 22 is NOT old... good grief...
even as a skater I don't think it's too late... if she has the drive and desire then more power to her.
Tugba trains all year long at the Mariposa in Barrie. Typically she, and the other freeskate elite (and non-elite skaters), skate 2 sessions a day, one 60 minute and one 45 minute, Monday through Friday. There is no ice on Saturdays, Sundays or holidays (Christmas, Easter, Victoria Day etc.), and there is reduced ice time whenever there is a hockey tournment. If Elite skaters would like to do a third session, they are welcome to "skate down" on a lower skill level session. Some skaters do, some don't ... some only "skate down" when they are getting ready for competition or getting new choreography put together. In addition to her on-ice training, Tugba also goes to one of the local gyms in Barrie. Her ISU bio is accurate.
Last edited by lotusland; 02-02-2007 at 06:45 PM.
Do you say "I'm 22 years young"?
I mean old as a skater, not certainly as a person.
Last edited by gio; 02-02-2007 at 07:19 PM.
Tugba has made remarkable progress in the last 3 years.
2004 - 23rd Europeans (just made the FS); 35th Worlds (DNQ).
2005 - 19th Europeans, 106.96; 27th Worlds (FNR)
2006 - 13th Europeans, 124.72; 21st Olympics, 123.64; 18th Worlds, 134.31
2007 - 10th Europeans, 131.00.
Sasha Cohen, how old's JoannieDo you say "I'm 22 years young"?
I mean old as a skater, not certainly as a person.
then Irina, Michelle, Maria... just to name a few of the ladies...
just because they aren't 16 doesn't mean they are hasbeens or can never improve... get rid of the stigma!
No, they aren't ancient mariners, but at the age of 22, it is probably harder to develop the basic triple jumps than at the age of 12, or even 16 or 17. I think that was the point being made.
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