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Thread: If and When I Offend........

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    sk8cynic
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    If and When I Offend........


    If you have read my thread titled "Strictly Aesthetically Speaking" (of something like that ), you will see that I have been informed that my former signature post about France and the UN offended some of the members. I am currently in the process with my outdated 26K modem of trying to find and remove the signature lines. If anyone finds a random one after tonight, please let me know and I will gladly remove it.

    I realize that I am very passionate about my opinions, especially when it pertains to world politics, but if I ever offend anyone here with something that I have posted, please PM me and let me know. Joe and Paula have enough on their hands without having to police every little inflammatory comment that shows up here on the boards.

    The last thing I intend to do is upset or offend anyone with my comments and opinions, but I realize that it is at times this is unavoidable.

    If I have upset or offended you, please, please, please take it to me first, and if we can't resolve things, then it is time for the administrators to get involved.

    Once again, I apologize for the offense. However, I stand behind my beliefs.

    -sk8cynic

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    ........sk8cynic.......there is nothing wrong with having convictions that you strongly believe in..... 42

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    Joesitz
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    Sk8cynic - Your convictions are your own and when put into the proper forum should be open for debate.

    Some of us are just left over 1960 Peaceniks, and certainly the present situation has divided the country.

    You are in the right thread.

    Joe


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    sk8cynic
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    It's tough......although raised as a staunch Democrat, I was also raised to be a staunch patriot. When you take those factors and add in the fact that I have a ridiculous number of family members who serve(d) in the military and fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Operation Desert Storm, plus someone actively involved in Operation Enduring Freedom, you may be able to see why my feelings are so twitchy about this subject matter. I only hope that regardless of your feelings about our government in a war that is likely to start this week, that our friends and family members there will have support...... I don't want a repeat of Vietnam in any respect, and the way a lot of war protesters in the 60's treated soldiers back then didn't really set too well in my book. I only pray that doesn't happen again.



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    Kara Bear
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    theres a signature left in the sasha cheering thread in the worlds folder

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    sk8cynic
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    Kara,

    Thank you for bringing it to my attention. It has been removed.

    Joe,

    In response to your adamant requests:

    I spent the better part of yesterday evening removing my signature from posts, both in skating and non-skating related threads.

    Given that the phone lines where I live allow me to operate at between 26K and 31K, removing all of these is a time-consuming process. That having been said, understand that I am not ignoring your request, as you apparently think I have.

    Also, I have not received any feedback saying that my former signature was offensive, and in fact have received only support and praise for my position and strength of conviction, I think the only person offended by my signature is you.

    Consequently, Fetal Attraction had a signature line for MONTHS that slammed religion. Didn't really see anyone come down on him for that. In fact, he finally got suspended only when he made an offensive post about Michelle Kwan. Heavens, that's REAL anarchy and treason in the skating world., never mind Iraq.

    Furthermore, I cannot help but feel that if my signature line had been expressing disdain for Bush and opposition to the impending war, there would never have been any brou-ha-ha about what it said.

    Best that I can tell, I have removed my signature from all recent skating threads. Like I said in this thread, if you see one, tell me where it is and I will gladly remove it. I expect, however, that if ANY political comments, inference, or the like appear in ANY skating threads - be they pro or anti whatever, they will be handled by the same standards I have been ordered to adhere to.

    Thank you,





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    mathman444
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    Hi, SkateCynic. Keep on postin'. Don't let the old peaceniks like me and Joe get you down. Yes, this is a divisive issue. But the people on Golden Skate are mature enough to understand the difference between disagreeing with someone's opinion and disliking the poster. You have presented your case well and have made points that are hard to refute, even by people such as myself who even now hope for a miracle.

    Golden Skate has more than 1000 registered members and many more regular or occasional viewers. There is no doubt that many of them share your views and are grateful to you for standing by them, whether they take the time to say so or not.

    And like you say, if you REALLY want to start a fight, just say that Sasha's Ina Bauer is better than Michelle's.

    Mathman

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    Jules Asner
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    what do you mean Sasha's Ina Bauer is better than Michelle's? HOW DARE YOU? are you blind?
    just kidding.:rollin:

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    Ladskater
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    Jules Asner:

    But it is!!! There now I will start a Michelle vs. Sasha war.

    Ladskater

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    nysk8r
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    Both of you are wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!!!

    Sarah Hughes has the best ina bauer

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    rgirl181
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    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Consequently, Fetal Attraction had a signature line for MONTHS that slammed religion. Didn't really see anyone come down on him for that. In fact, he finally got suspended only when he made an offensive post about Michelle Kwan. Heavens, that's REAL anarchy and treason in the skating world, never mind Iraq.[/quote] How true and how sad.
    Rgirl

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    Joesitz
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    Sk8cynic - You didn't see the private mail regarding Fetal. I miss him, too. But he should have put his feelings in the Off Topic and not make a signature of them.

    I will miss you too if you leave. You have a lot to offer regarding figure skating. Your points of having a war are well taken but at least half the other posters believe in Peace! That's the way the country is divided.

    Cheer up, though. I believe your wish will come true.

    Joesitz

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    maxell1313
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    Sk8Cynic: I agree with everything you've said.

    Joesitz: Even those of us that support what's going on in Iraq want the ultimate goal to be peace. Anyone that just likes fighting all the time needs to be locked in a room with nothing but John Tesh and Yanni CD's. (My apologies to those who enjoy the music of John Tesh and Yanni.) It breaks my heart to see people with no food, no roof over their heads and no clothes on their backs. There are people in our own country with these problems who need help, but at least that help IS available. What about those places where they can't get enough to eat and have no shelter?

    I don't think that we'll ever know exactly what kind of help the Iraqi people want or need until they get the opportunity to speak up without fear of retaliation. No one wants to see innocent civilians die here. More than anything I want them to live in freedom, able to live and worship as they choose. I think the only way that's going to happen is if Saddam is taken out of the equation.

    My opinion....



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    rgirl181
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    sk8cynic
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    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You didn't see the private mail regarding Fetal. I miss him, too.[/quote]

    Whether or not I miss Fetal was not the point I was trying to make. It just seems that on this site that in recent months there has been a rather nasty double standard evolving regarding what offensive remarks get the voodoo hex and which don't. I mean, come on, we all know that religion is one of the biggest hot buttons in this country, and his signature was visible for months. My point is that there has got to be some consistency about doling out reprimands.

    Also, I would really appreciate it if you would edit your post in the topic War and ABC (I think that's the title) with regard to the "If that dumb war starts" comment. I find that a little disturbing, and though I don't get the idea that anyone here really feels this impending war is dumb, you pointed out to me that we are not the only ones that view this forum. I'm not discounting your feelings about this situation, just merely saying that description wasn't really necessary.

    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Cheer up, though. I believe your wish will come true.
    [/quote]

    I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. If you think that for one minute I WANT a war and that I should be happy about this, then you apparently haven't heard a damn thing I have said. I am absolutely sickened that it has come down to this, and if that is what your intent was with that comment, I think it shows a serious character defect in your makeup if you feel anyone would be looking forward to it.

    When everything hit the fan at the first of the year about all the vitriol, someone here suggested that if you're fired up about a topic and respond while in that frame of mind, it's a good idea to wait a little bit and read back through your comment before posting it to the thread. Not to rebuke a moderator, but if your comment was not meant to come off that way, it should have been phrased more concisely.

    Got to walk away for a little while as I'm getting fired up , myself.



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