Freedom Fries | Golden Skate

Freedom Fries

M

mike79

Guest
Freedom Fries

God, the American government has issues. The French disagree with war so the name of french fries has to change to freedom fries? There's no need for reactions like that, it's so childish (although not surprising since Dubya's vocabulary isn't that much more advanced than that of a toddler). What is up with the anti-French sentiment? They don't want to go to war. Gee, people who like peace. Whod'a thunk it?

Other terms that can be turned from 'French':

Freedom kissing
Freedom dressing
Freedom Connection (movie)
Freedomie (Frenchie from American Idol)
 
H

heyang

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

I feel bad when people call France, Germany, and any other opposers chickens. They have more of a reason to avoid war. They are geographically a lot closer to the action.

As the German ambassador said during the Nightline town meeting, They initiated 2 wars for the WRONG reasons and they want to be sure they don't enter a 3rd for the WRONG reasons.

France says that they can't understand why the rush and do not understand the disregard of the opinions of other countries besides the US.

I heard on the news tonight that NYC became the 140th (?) US city to officially state their objections to this War. As one councilman pointed out, Iraq has not been publicly linked to 9/11, Osama and Al Quada.

As I've said in the past, I do not feel that my president is justified in this effort. I could be somewhat supportive if I felt that the other nations of the world truly felt the same, but it's apparent that our leadership has not presented enough evidence to these countries (at present.)
 
K

Kara Bear

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

whats this about freedom fries...its the first i've heard of it?????
 
M

mike79

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

Hi Kara

Today it was announced that in the cafeteria eating areas in the House buildings of the US french fries will be called freedom fries for the time being. This is an attempt to mock the French who don't want to go to war against Iraq.

I doubt the French will care since fries originated in Belgium!
 
J

Jimmy Hoffa 2

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

Freedom Bread
Freedom Toast
Freedom Braids
Freedom Twist
Freedom Silk Pie
Freedom Canadians (Boycott Quebec! Don't they have French, excuse me, FREEDOM-speaking requirements?)
Freedom Dip sandwiches
Freedom Rolls
Freedom Doors

Anyone play the Freedom Horn? ROTFLMAO

Should we burn down the Statue of Liberty? It was a gift from France.
 
L

Ladskater

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

Mike:

You beat me to the punch!!! I was just going to write a post about the same thing. It was on the news tonight. What ridiculous behavior! Is the US denouncing all things French? What about the Statue of Liberty? That was a gift from the French. Is the Statue going to be dismantled? I think there are more important issues to focus on at this perilous time.

Ladskater
 
L

lottafs

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

I don't even think they should rename these things who have the word "French" in it. Can't they just at least RESPECT France's decision on not going to war? Sheesh. :rolleyes:
 
N

Nadya Lyubova

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

<img src="http://www.gent-world.net/v/emoticons/lolcryin.gif"/> Whose idea was that, by the way? Whoever it was, I can't believe what a Nationalistic and simple world view this is. Hehe.
Anyway, a few weeks ago, when I got the news I will be studying in the US for a year, I started reminding myself they're called French Fries at the other side of the ocean, and now this is wrong - I guess I'll go back to calling them chips ;) :lol:

:lol: Oh and yes, my brother used to play the Freedom horn :rollin:
 
J

Jules Asner

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

I'd stick with French Fries - chips will only get you a side of potato chips (crisps in English-English). As far as I know they have only changed the name in one small food stand in north carolina and then in some government cafeteria - its stupid and won't stick. That fact that it is making news is ridiculous.

Viva La France - I'll never part with my croissants and french wine and cheese. J'adore Monet, Degas, Proust et Colette. Paris, je t'adore.
 
K

Kara Bear

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard of!!!!!
 
N

Nadya Lyubova

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

I find it funny that Freedom Fries make a huge discussion in the media, when the assassination of Zoran Djindjic, the Serbian Prime Minister, doesn't. Here it was the news of the day when it happened. Oh well, I'm going off topic, sorry ;)
 
P

Ptichka

Guest
Re: Freedom Fries

Well, Nadya, how many people have heard of Djindjic, vs. how many people have heard of French Fries? How many people have met Djindjic, vs. how many people have met a French Frie? :)
 
S

sk8cynic

Guest
To Lottafs

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I don't even think they should rename these things who have the word "French" in it. Can't they just at least RESPECT France's decision on not going to war? Sheesh. [/quote]


I think you are missing the point here. I don't think anyone here disrespects France's feelings about going to war in Iraq.......what Americans are primarily upset about is Black Jacque Chiraq's Napoleonic bullying tactics. France's government is not merely saying that they don't feel war is the best option, they are trying to ram their opinions down everyone else's throats by screaming that will veto ANY resolution. In addition, even though they are technically Allies of the US, they have been involved in some rather underhanded negotiating (read: bribery) with other countries to block any US/UNSC resolution or decision. Guess it doesn't matter that France doesn't exactly have a winning war record (when was their last victory? before Waterloo?).....Also, without the US and Britain, there would be far more umlauts and very few cedilles in the French language. Oh, and even when we were allied with France during WWII, we had to take on the Vichy French, who were in cahoots with Hitler. Don't even get me started on the French and Hitler. The French's attitude of wait and see in the 1930's didn't exactly work out so well, and the situation with Hussein is no different.

Sorry about the rant, but if you can't see why American's are upset with the French, you can take your Freedom horn and move there!!
 
J

Jules Asner

Guest
Re: To Lottafs

You make excellent points, but I simply cannot live without my wine and cheese!

well, there's still chianti. australia makes good wine, as does california. But what will I do about croissants? I simple refuse to eat a croissandwich. you can't make me.:p
 
S

sk8cynic

Guest
Re: To Jules

ROFL!!!

I understand about the wine and cheese; I personally despise Brie, and Gruyere isn't my favorite, but there are plenty of others (Dutch cheeses come to mind, but I love a good Ham & Swiss or a cheddar fondue any day!!). As for French Whines, I'm not a major connoisseur, so I'm usually fine with a good Australian or even a good Columbia Valley from WA. There has to be a good doppelganger for a croissant (BTW I'd rather eat camel dung than a croissanwich)!

We should just call them fries. Better yet, why not call the silly things "Cholesterol Yummies?" More truth in that than either French Fries or Freedom Fries.....

On a more serious note about the Statue of Liberty, yes the French gave that to the US, but perhaps France ought to take a moment to stop and think about her title and just what Liberty means. Also, had terrorists flown planes into the Eiffel Tower, the French would be at our door with their hands out, and if the US hedged on backing the French, they would be screaming for our heads and calling us traitors.

Truth is, the French has resented the overall success of the US, they resent their economic reliance on the US, and they certainly don't want the US to get into Iraq and find out (as I suspect we will) just how far in bed the French government has crawled with Hussein and Iraq.

Also, isn't it a bit hypocritical that not a single country on the UN Security council is crying for multilateral involvement with the situation we have with North Korea? They're just FINE with the US taking them on solo, and they certainly didn't pitch any fits when the US went into Kosovo without UN approval. How is this situation any different, except that France is trying desperately to cover their own merde before it hits the fan?

Before I get called a right wing facist, I have always voted Democrat, straight party ticket a lot of the time, and I don't care a whole lot for Bush, but I am a patriotic American, a humanitarian, and there is a MORAL IMPERATIVE to remove Hussein from his position of power before he commits any more crimes against humanity, and I am getting damned sick and tired of everyone asking for the US's military or economic aid out of one side of their mouths, and blasting the US for being successful and powerful out of the other.
 
J

Jimmy Hoffa 2

Guest
Re: To Jules

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I doubt the French will care since fries originated in Belgium![/quote]
Exactly. I don't think they're even called "French Fries" in France. Aren't they called <em>pommes frites</em>? The "French" part comes from the way the potato is sliced into thin strips, called "frenching". So if someone really wants to make a statement, they ought to QUIT eating fries, not just change the name. I'm certainly interested in seeing how many anti-France people can give up fries completely.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>if you can't see why American's are upset with the French, you can take your Freedom horn and move there!![/quote]
The attitude "Agree with war or get out America" bears a much stronger resemblance to Iraq than the United States. Ironic that everyone who feels your way wants to blow that whole country up.

By the way, a person can be a fascist without being right-wing. :)

Freedom Onion Dip
Freedom's Mustard :lol:
 
S

sk8cynic

Guest
Re: To Jules

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The attitude "Agree with war or get out America" bears a much stronger resemblance to Iraq than the United States. Ironic that everyone who feels your way wants to blow that whole country up.

[/quote]

I must disagree with your comment.

If it were Iraq, the attitude would be "Agree with war or DIE", which, coincidentally, is pretty much the ultimatum that Hussein has placed upon his own people. We also happen to know that this is not an idle threat with this man.....he's proven time and time again that he has no regard for human life - be it that of his enemies or his own people. Do I want the country blown up? Absolutely not. Do I want him out of power and a regime change? Absolutely!!!!

How Chirac can say that they just need a little more time to get Hussein to comply? What the hell is he smoking to alter time? Iraq has had 12 years to comply with a resolution that had a timetable of less than 3 months, and the only reason that Hussein is throwing the occasional bone is that there are 300,000+ troops positioned to kick his a**. Tell me, who is going to enforce compliance if the US leaves? The French? HA!!!! Chiraq doesn't mind the wait-and-see attitude as long as his country isn't footing the bill!

My comment, though out of line, now that I read back through it, stems from the fact that countless nations have an expectation that the US is always going to help them out - be it in foreign policy, economic, humanitarian aid, etc. My point would have better been expressed as "if France can't see this situation from the POV of the US, Britain, and Spain and are going to resort to less than scrutable tactics to make sure France gets its way, then perhaps it is time for the US to take it's economic marbles, go home, and quit being friends with the neighborhood bully." I am really starting to wonder if this is not a global conspiracy to deliberately derail the success and status of superpower that the US has retained after the other superpowers have diminished somewhat in their power. France has never been a superpower - their position within the UN Security Council was a gift at the UN's inception, and Germany has no moral leg to stand on after their country caused the two largest global wars in history. Germany, of all countries, should understand the gravity of letting a despot like Hussein remain in power. Didn't they learn anything from WWII? In response to Germany's claim that they are afraid that a US led liberation of Iraq will cause global war, all I can say is "remember blitzkkrieg?" France, England, and Russia all knew damned well what was going on in Germany in the 1930's yet they did nothing. Hitler violated the terms of the Versailles treaty and crossed into the Alsace-Lorraine, and yet they STILL did nothing. Only when Germany invaded Poland (after Germans dressed in Polish military uniforms attacked a German outpost near the Polish border, thus "justifying" the attack on Poland - sound like anything you may have heard in the new lately?), did England and France declare war on Germany, and the US caught heat back then because we did not sent troops overseas to help. I guess it doesn't matter that we were sending arms and munitions to England and France even if we weren't sending our military. Perhaps this is France's way of getting back at us for trying not to get involved in a war overseas. We learned OUR lesson about nipping despotic killers in the bud, isn't it time they learned THEIRS?
 
J

Jimmy Hoffa 2

Guest
Re: To Jules

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I must disagree with your comment.

If it were Iraq, the attitude would be "Agree with war or DIE", which, coincidentally, is pretty much the ultimatum that Hussein has placed upon his own people.[/quote]
Both add up to "Only one way of thinking is acceptable, and it BETTER BE MY WAY OR ELSE". It's all close minded, intolerant thinking, the only variant is the ELSE. Luckily for you and me, the United States has something in the Constitution called Freedom of Speech. I'd suggest that the people who have such a problem with people who disagree with the war write to their Senators and Congressmen and ask them to repeal the First Amendment. That is, if they can quit sermonizing long enough to write the damn letter.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I am really starting to wonder if this is not a global conspiracy to deliberately derail the success and status of superpower that the US has retained after the other superpowers have diminished somewhat in their power.[/quote]
Um, sure. Whatever you say.

Getting back to the real spirit of the thread.

Freedom Stewart (from 3rd Rock From the Sun)
Freedom Cuffs
Freedom Cut Underwear
 
J

Jimmy Hoffa 2

Guest
Re: To Jules

One last thing. I gotta hand it to anyone who is mad at France, but can put their differences aside long enough to post in a section of Golden Skate called <em>"le café"</em>.:)
 
Top