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Fetal's Suspension
As folks may or may not know, Sunday night, 2-2-03, Fetal was suspended from posting for 30 days. The "last straw" was in the "Kurt Browning and Sonia are Expecting Thread" (see below). I don't know if this is okay to discuss. If not, Paula or Joe, let me know and no problem closing down this thread. I know I will ask to have this thread closed down if it turns into a "let's bash Fetal" thing. However, if people have non-bashing thoughts on it, perhaps it is worth discussing. OTOH, perhaps not. We shall see.
Personally, I like Fetal a lot. But things that I would say to him in a personal e-mail or chat I would NEVER say on the board. I don't see it as being phony; I just see it as respecting the social rules of GS. An artist does have to be him/herself, no matter what that is and not matter whether it offends people or not. Oscar Wilde and James Joyce are just two examples of artists who were denigrated and exiled for their views. They were popular for some of their works and views; they were outcasts because of others. But posting on GS is not making art. It's social interaction and discussion about figure skating and other topics. I love Fetal's unique view on things and I don't think Paula is interfering with his "freedom of speech" in any way. With freedom comes responsibility. Fetal has posted for many months without going over the line (or barely going over the line ). Very little actually offends me and although Fetal's posts did not offend me per se--actually, they never even came close to offending me:smokin: --I knw they were offending certain GSers. How many, I have no idea. I'm sorry this happened but Paula did warn Fetal. Being an outspoken, opinionated person myself, I can relate to Fetal's situation, but I think Paula did the right thing--and I also think she gave Fetal a very long leash and tried to talk to him nicely about toning it down. Maybe she could have deleted more posts first, but ultimately, Paula is the boss. I hope Fetal comes back because besides the obvious humor he adds to GS, he starts a lot of interesting and provocative thread topics and contributes same in posts. So I guess this is to say, "I love ya, Fetal, but unless we are in our clean well-lighted space making our own art, there are the social standards of the group to consider." OTOH, I also think some people took Fetal too seriously. You can always just not read his posts. Of course I hope Fetal comes back and after sleeping on it last night, I am also hoping that perhaps Paula will reconsider and reduce Fetal's sentence to two weeks.
Rgirl
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Last Straw Post and Paula's Suspension:
FetalAttraction
Re: Brownings expecting baby #1 in July!
Posted: 2/1/03 5:56:42 pm
Now that Kurt has fathered two babies (his wife and Scott's wife, like sure it's actually Scott's), will he please knock up Yuka Sato, too? Kurt and Yuka can have super skating babies! The babies will do quad axels by 9 and have artistry that makes Torville and Dean seem deaf by 12. Imagine the possibilities!
Buddha, Allah, Jesus and Jeffrey Buttle, I swear I'll pretend you all exist and can do triple axels if your followers promise not to kick me off the message board or crash planes into my house.
If I've offended you somehow, I'm terribly sorry. Terribly sorry that you're a pompous, inferior fool.
Posts: 1278
GSK8 (Paula)
FETAL!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 2/2/03 9:32:13 pm
Fetal, you crack me up sometimes and you have great insight on skating but this is where I draw the line.
You are now suspended from the GS Forum for a period of 30 days. Once you are back, if you want to come back, you will be on probabtion for the rest of your tenure.
Now off to the corner with you until you learn how to behave and ponder what you will use for your next signature title!
Paula
The Golden Skate
"Your resource site for Figure Skating."
The Golden Skate Newsletter
Posts: 515
As folks may or may not know, Sunday night, 2-2-03, Fetal was suspended from posting for 30 days. The "last straw" was in the "Kurt Browning and Sonia are Expecting Thread" (see below). I don't know if this is okay to discuss. If not, Paula or Joe, let me know and no problem closing down this thread. I know I will ask to have this thread closed down if it turns into a "let's bash Fetal" thing. However, if people have non-bashing thoughts on it, perhaps it is worth discussing. OTOH, perhaps not. We shall see.
Personally, I like Fetal a lot. But things that I would say to him in a personal e-mail or chat I would NEVER say on the board. I don't see it as being phony; I just see it as respecting the social rules of GS. An artist does have to be him/herself, no matter what that is and not matter whether it offends people or not. Oscar Wilde and James Joyce are just two examples of artists who were denigrated and exiled for their views. They were popular for some of their works and views; they were outcasts because of others. But posting on GS is not making art. It's social interaction and discussion about figure skating and other topics. I love Fetal's unique view on things and I don't think Paula is interfering with his "freedom of speech" in any way. With freedom comes responsibility. Fetal has posted for many months without going over the line (or barely going over the line ). Very little actually offends me and although Fetal's posts did not offend me per se--actually, they never even came close to offending me:smokin: --I knw they were offending certain GSers. How many, I have no idea. I'm sorry this happened but Paula did warn Fetal. Being an outspoken, opinionated person myself, I can relate to Fetal's situation, but I think Paula did the right thing--and I also think she gave Fetal a very long leash and tried to talk to him nicely about toning it down. Maybe she could have deleted more posts first, but ultimately, Paula is the boss. I hope Fetal comes back because besides the obvious humor he adds to GS, he starts a lot of interesting and provocative thread topics and contributes same in posts. So I guess this is to say, "I love ya, Fetal, but unless we are in our clean well-lighted space making our own art, there are the social standards of the group to consider." OTOH, I also think some people took Fetal too seriously. You can always just not read his posts. Of course I hope Fetal comes back and after sleeping on it last night, I am also hoping that perhaps Paula will reconsider and reduce Fetal's sentence to two weeks.
Rgirl
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Last Straw Post and Paula's Suspension:
FetalAttraction
Re: Brownings expecting baby #1 in July!
Posted: 2/1/03 5:56:42 pm
Now that Kurt has fathered two babies (his wife and Scott's wife, like sure it's actually Scott's), will he please knock up Yuka Sato, too? Kurt and Yuka can have super skating babies! The babies will do quad axels by 9 and have artistry that makes Torville and Dean seem deaf by 12. Imagine the possibilities!
Buddha, Allah, Jesus and Jeffrey Buttle, I swear I'll pretend you all exist and can do triple axels if your followers promise not to kick me off the message board or crash planes into my house.
If I've offended you somehow, I'm terribly sorry. Terribly sorry that you're a pompous, inferior fool.
Posts: 1278
GSK8 (Paula)
FETAL!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 2/2/03 9:32:13 pm
Fetal, you crack me up sometimes and you have great insight on skating but this is where I draw the line.
You are now suspended from the GS Forum for a period of 30 days. Once you are back, if you want to come back, you will be on probabtion for the rest of your tenure.
Now off to the corner with you until you learn how to behave and ponder what you will use for your next signature title!
Paula
The Golden Skate
"Your resource site for Figure Skating."
The Golden Skate Newsletter
Posts: 515