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    Quote Originally Posted by skatingfan04 View Post
    Oh, not bad for the Canadian girl Charlotte Belair. 6th place is respectable. Does anyone know what she fell on?
    Apparently it was the 3Lz.

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    I was kind of disappointed in Mirai today. After seeing that lovely number on Youtube, I guess I expected too much. But her win was genuine.

    Gilles and Maxwell were new to me. Liked them both. Maxwell is like a bull in a china shop.

    (whisper: Some of those Ladies wouldn't get near the podium in juvenile let alone in novice or intermediate.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Gilles and Maxwell were new to me. Liked them both. Maxwell is like a bull in a china shop.
    Joe, do a search for her on youtube. I saw a clip from a competition earlier this summer where she wasn't so "bullish".

    I didn't see all the ladies short this afternoon, but I have to keep in mind that some of the countries don't have as strong a skating program as the US, Canada, etc with the coaches, facilities, etc. Even being assigned to an international event must be a victory for some of these skaters. I know I'd be thrilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver.blades View Post
    Apparently it was the 3Lz.
    I saw her skate. She fell on the 3Lz and didn't get to do the combo.

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    Angela Maxwell was the 2007 U.S. Novice champion.

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    How did y'all like Tommy's Bolero? I didn't expect to like it but tried to keep an open mind and was pleasantly surprised. It will be better when he gets a few more miles on it and without the mistakes. I'm looking forward to it later in the season.

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    Do we have another showman in Austin K.?:chorus:

    Into second for the moment. Good for him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by childfreegirl View Post
    Do we have another showman in Austin K.?:chorus:

    Into second for the moment. Good for him!
    Austin K. He nailed most of his elements, but his jumps do not have lots of speed in and out. I'm really excited about Amar. He seems to be a kid with great potential. Big jumps with very good flow in and out, and secure. Spins are also fast. He's very young, just coming from Novice.

    Keep an eye on this kid.

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    I missed the men's FS (I had family over) but I'm very happy for all the men who were able to improve their placements. What a great result for Armin Mahbanoozadeh at his first JGP event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by childfreegirl View Post
    How did y'all like Tommy's Bolero? I didn't expect to like it but tried to keep an open mind and was pleasantly surprised. It will be better when he gets a few more miles on it and without the mistakes. I'm looking forward to it later in the season.
    I've grown to hate that tune. I wish he had skated to something else. He is a very musical skater and that Bolero just repeats the same phrases overand over.

    Tommy is in a slump. Everyone he has competed against have moved a head of him. He needs a shrink and a good jump coach specializing in landings.

    I felt sorry for the Russian boy too. He has so much talent but it escaped him in the LP. Trouble with the Russian skaters, imo, is that they all have the same style and front load all their jumps. It gets tiresome at least for me.

    MM - Of course Maxwell was the US novice champ. I only saw her exhibition last year.

    Tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty place for the Ladies LP, the Dance and the Pairs.

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    Mirai just didnt look as strong as she did last year - you can tell she has grown a bit and she may be still adjusting to that but her program just didnt have the stamp of polish on it. However she still looked good for this early in the season.

    Alexe looked strong and polished, the loop was just a bit off, however, I do like her overall skating quality and she covers the ice nicely with her long body.

    Angela did an amazing 3toe/3toe combo but the rest of her program was still very young. She is short in stature and she needs to work on her overall line. She has great speed in her spins but just didnt nail the 2a or loop. She will need to make up some ground before I really think she is a contender for Junior.

    Austin is quite the ham and I was happy he held on to some of his landings. He too looks taller than last season so may be a bit off in his timing. His program and choreography suit him well and he really looks like he is having a good time out on the ice and wants to make sure the audience is too. Cute!

    Looking forward to the Pairs and Ladies finals tomorrow. Wondering how the US pairs will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver.blades View Post
    Apparently it was the 3Lz.
    Thanks. Yikes, just saw the men's rankings. What happened to Louis-Philippe Sirois (CAN). Yikes, he was so strong at Novice nationals last season. Not bad for Andrei Rogozine though. He was 2nd in Novice men's this year.
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    poor Tommy

    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Poor Tommy - He was second in the GP Final last year, I believe and then blew the US Nats. I hope he skates a good LP and pulls himself up a couple of notches. Hope he then does a winning Nats in St. Paul. if not, his days are numbered with the USFS.

    Artem Grigoriev (Russia), will be a name to watch. I definitely want to see him tomorrow in the reruns and then the LP. What about the quad?

    And the Japanese boy, Akio Sasaki. A star in the making?

    Joe
    I'm afraid Audrey may be becoming the coach of death. !st Weiss, Then Goebel, now Tommy. I'd like to see him with Carol Heiss. She seems to be able to correct jump landings for those out of control. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by netnuts View Post
    Does anybody know what is the required throw and sbs jump in pairs short?
    See my post #43. Juniors can do either 2A or 2Lo as the sbs jump.

    FYI, the Men's SP & FS protocols already online! Click on the active "Judges Scores (pdf)" links): http://www.isufs.org/results/jgpusa2007/

    Just for the heck of it, I've extracted/typed up Ladies SP protocol notes for those folks who can't wait until tonight following the Ladies FS for the ISU to publish both protocols.

    1 Mirai Nagasu USA
    3Lz+2T (1 -1 GOE, 6 0/zero, 3 +1), 3Lo (3 -2, 5 -1, 2 0), LSp4 (7 +3, 3 +2 = 3.98 points!), SpSq4 (3 0, 2 +1, 5 +2), 2A (1 -1, 1 0,7 +1, 1 +2), FSSp1 (2 -1, 8 0), SlSt2 (3 0, 6 +1, 1 +2), CCoSp3 (4 +1, 6 +2).

    2 Alexe Gilles USA
    3Lz+2T (3 -1, 4 0, 3 +1), 3Lo(fall), SpSq4 (8 0, 2 +1), LSp4 (4 0,)5 +1, 1 +2), 2A (4 0, 6 +1), FSSp3 (10 0), CiSt1 7 0, 3 +1), CCoSp4 (7 0, 3 +1)

    3 Angela Maxwell USA
    2A fall out (3 -3, 6 -2, 1 -1), FSSp1 (3 -1, 5 0, 2 +1), 3T+3T (3 -1, 5 0, 2 +1), SpSq4 (4 0, 4 +1, 2 +2), 3Lo(fall), CCoSp4 (9 +1, 1 0), SlSt2 (4 0, 5 +1, 1 +2), LSp2 (1 -1, 3 0, 3 +1, 3 +2).

    4 Joshi Helgesson SWE
    2A (1 0, 8 +1, 1 +2), 3S+2T (2 -1, 7 0, 1 +1), FSSp3 (1 -1, 7 0, 2 +1), 3Lo(fall), LSp2 (10 0), SpSq4 (1 -2, 1 -1, 8 0), CCoSp4 (6 0, 4 +1), CiSt2 (7 0, 2 +1, 1 +2).

    5 Miruku Matsushita JPN
    CCoSp3 (10 0), 3S+2T (1 -1, 8 0, 1 +1), 2Lo (8 0, 2 +1), FSSp2 (2 -1, 8 0), SpSq4 (4 0 6 +1), 2A (5 -1, 5 0), LSp3 (4 -1, 6 0), SlSt1 (8 0, 2 +1).

    6 Charlotte Belair CAN
    3F(fall)+COMBO, 3Lo (3 -1, 7 0), LSp2 (8 0, 2 +1), FSSp3 (6 -1, 4 0), SlSt2 (9 0, 1 +1), 2A (6 0, 4 +1), SpSq4 (9 0, 1 +1), CCoSp3 (1 -1, 9 0).

    7 Na-Hee Sin KOR
    2A step out(9 -2, 1 -1), 3S(2-ft? 3turn)+2T (1 -3, 5 -2, 3 -1), SlSt1 (8 0, 2 +1), 2Lo )1 -1, 9 0), LSp4 (6 0, 4 +1), SpSq4 (4 0, 6 +1), CCoSp4 (4 0, 6 +1), FSSp3 (5 -1, 5 0).

    8 Satsuki Muramoto JPN
    3Lo(fall), LSp3 (2 0, 7 +1, 1 +2), 3S+2T (9 0, 1 +1), FSSp1 (7 -1, 3 0), SpSq4 (7 0, 3 +1), 2A(fall), CiSt1 (5 0, 4 +1), CCoSp3 (1 -2, 7 0, 2 +1).

    9 Loretta Hamui MEX
    2S+2T, 2Lo, FSSp1, SpSq3, LSp3, 2A, CCoSp4, SlSt3

    10 Charlotte Gendreau FRA
    2A (6 +1 GOE), 2S+2T, FSSp2, 2Lo, SpSq3, CCoSp4, LSp1, CiSt1

    11 Charissa Tansomboon THA
    2A, 2Lo, FSSp1, SpSq4, 2F+2T, LSp3, SlSt1, CCoSp1

    12 Chloe Depouilly FRA
    3S+2T, 2A(fall), FSSp1, 2Lo, SpSq3, LSp2, SlSt1, CCoSp2

    13 Isabelle Heintges GER
    2A, 3Lo, SpSq1, FSSp1, SlSt1, LSp1, 3S(turnout)+2T, CCoSp4

    14 Sigrid Young TPE
    2A, LSp2 (9 +1), 3S<(fall)+COMBO, CCoSp2, SlSt2, SpSq4, 2Lo, FSSp1

    15 Victoria Muniz PUR
    3T(fall out)+COMBO(2T), FSSp3, 2Lo, SpSq1, 2A (6 +1, 1 +2), LSp2, CiSt1, CCoSp1

    16 Sara Twete DEN
    3T<(fall)+COMBO, LSp1 (5 +1), 2A, 2Lo, SpSq4, FSSp3, SlSt1, CCoSp4 (5 +1)

    17 Soo-Jin Kim KOR
    3S+2T, 2Lo, SpSq1, 2A, CCoSp2, LSp2, CiSt1, FSSp1

    18 Radka Bartova SVK
    2Lo, 3T+2T (6 +1), FSSp3, 1A, SpSq (no points), LSp1, SlSt1, CCoSp2

    19 Martina Pfirter SWI
    3T(fall)+COMBO, 2A, FSSp1, 2Lo, SpSq4, SlSt1, CCoSp2, Lsp2

    20 Gracielle Jeanne Tan PHI
    2A(fall), 2Lz+2T<, LSp2, SpSq4, FSSp1, 2Lo, SlSt1, CCoSp3

    21 Maria-Elena Papasotiriou GRE
    2A, 1F+1T, 3Lo<(fall), FSSp1, SpSq1, CCoSp1, SlSt1, LSp1

    22 Eva Lim NED
    2A<(fall), 3S+COMBO, CCoSp2, SpSq3, FSSp2, 2Lo, CiSt1, LSp1

    23 Marta Olczak POL
    2Lz+2T, 2A<(fall), FSSp1, SpSq3, 2Lo(fall), LSp1, SlSt1, CCoSp1

    24 Jasmina Uzunovic SRB
    2F<+2T<, SpSq4, LSp1, 2Lo, FSSp1, SlSt1, 1A, CCoSp1

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8addict View Post
    I'm afraid Audrey may be becoming the coach of death. !st Weiss, Then Goebel, now Tommy. I'd like to see him with Carol Heiss. She seems to be able to correct jump landings for those out of control. Any thoughts?
    You may be right on that. I never thought of Audrey' record with the Men. I'd like to see Tommy with David Wilson or Lori Nichol for choreography. Heiss as coach? Why not?

    Joe

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