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    The Technical Part of Ice Dance - Is it Clear?

    From watching Ice Dance LIVE for the past serveral years, I have been thinking about how the Technical Scores are arrived at.

    Compulsory Dance - This is the phase which more than anything else demands technical skill according to a prescribed pattern of rhythmic moves that ALL couples are judged.

    Original Dance - This is the phase which (I believe) should be judging the creativity of ALL the couples together with clean basic skills.

    The Free Dance - This is the phase where "Push Comes to Shove" and "Anything Goes" and should be the crowning glory of the entire competition for All couples less Pairs-like lifts
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    Please amend and correct, if necessary, my 3 assumptions above.
    Then tell me about:how important it is that the Technical is really judged properly and should it have more weight than the PCS scores as it does in Singles.

    (Just curious in trying to understand what goes into the judging of Ice Dance.)

    Joe

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    Sort of off-topic but something I've been thinking about. I don't really perceive the need for a FD (especially when it seems only tangentially related to anything like dance - though that hasn't been as big a problem for the last few years ).

    I'd redesign dance as two CD's and an extended free choice of OD (that is competitors could pick their own rhythms but would have to identify just what kind of dance(s) they think they're doing).

    As to your question, no it doesn't seem very clear, especially with increased importance given to elements that are the least related to traditional dance (spins, lifts, twizzles, footwork sequences)

    Also, they're obviously trying to eliminate the CD's (three to two to one - what comes next in that sequence) so the powers that be probably don't see much value in it.

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    The FD to me, seems to be approaching Pairs Free more and more each year. Maybe they are trying to eliminate Pairs.

    I contend the CD is the Technical and The FD is not so technical as it is tricks and costumes. That's why I am seeking advice.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post

    The FD to me, seems to be approaching Pairs Free more and more each year. Maybe they are trying to eliminate Pairs.

    I contend the CD is the Technical and The FD is not so technical as it is tricks and costumes. That's why I am seeking advice.
    Well, pairs has gotten entirely too dangerous with the extended lifts and increasing throw jumps (and COP dictating that all the pairs should differ from each other as little as possible)

    Dance does seem to be evolving from the excesses of cable porn on ice to more acrobatics and watered down pairs.

    I do agre that from what I can tell (admittedly not much) the CD is the most demanding technically followed by the OD followed by the dog and pony show known as the FD

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    When you compare the pairs field to the dance field, I feel that the dance field is much stronger and bigger the then pairs field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    The FD to me, seems to be approaching Pairs Free more and more each year. Maybe they are trying to eliminate Pairs.

    I contend the CD is the Technical and The FD is not so technical as it is tricks and costumes. That's why I am seeking advice.

    Joe
    Historically, the CDs were the dance equivalent of the school figures, the OD (and the various names it has had in the past) is the equivalent of the short program, and the FD is the equivalent of the free skate. Following the elimination of figures, there has been a parallel decrease in the number of CDs skated in competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsrossano View Post
    Following the elimination of figures, there has been a parallel decrease in the number of CDs skated in competition.
    That's kind of a shame, because unlike figures, compulsorary dances are fun to watch.

    Plus, with everyone doing the same thing, you get a better sense of competition than with the showier FD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    That's kind of a shame, because unlike figures, compulsorary dances are fun to watch.
    Plus, with everyone doing the same thing, you get a better sense of competition than with the showier FD.
    Figures are fun to watch, okay? Or they would have been had tv known how to cover them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsrossano View Post
    Following the elimination of figures, there has been a parallel decrease in the number of CDs skated in competition.
    I find this depressing. My favorite day of live competition was 2003 CDs at Malmo: waltz and blues.

    I could watch CDs for days.

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