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    Wrapping Your Legs While Rotating

    Here's another "habit" shared by some skaters that I find very unattractive -- wrapping one leg while rotating for jumps instead of pulling both legs together.

    Midori Ito typically wrapped one of her legs during many of her jumps, and while she usually landed the jumps successfully - she was a phenemonal jumper (!!) - that wrapped leg was very distracting, IMHO.

    I just think this is an example of poor technique. I can't imagine why a coach would not correct this habit when the skater was just learning the jumps. I recall seeing a tape of Midori as a five-year-old, rotating single and double jumps and wrapping her leg in the process. Obviously, this was a longstanding habit, and perhaps it was one that was impossible to break.
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    What do you mean wrapped? The only thing I noticed about Midori's jumping is that instead of crossing her feet like most skaters, she'd place her left foot on her right shin. Is that what you mean? I haven't seen any other skater do that.

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    A wrapped jump occurs when the skater's free leg while rotating rises upwards and is crossed at the knee or higher. I believe that Yoshie Onda has a wrap as well. I find them distracting, and they are indeed a sign of poor technique.

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    I don't understand your defenition of "wrap". All skaters wrap/cros their legs on their jumps nowadays. Midori just had a different, and less aesthetically pleasing way of doing so.

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    Yoshie Onda? I've never seen her wrap. During the past few seasons, I've only saw Silvia Fontana perform a wrap, though shes not skating anymore.

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    It is correct technique to cross have your freeleg crossed at the ankles when in the air, with the freeleg at an angle close to 180 degrees. A wrap occurs when the angle of the freeleg gets closer to being 90 degrees. This usually causes the freeleg to be crossed closer to the knee instead of being crossed at the ankles.



    This shows that the angle of the freeleg is closer to 180 degrees, and is indeed the correct air position.



    This shows that the angle of the freeleg is closer to 90 degrees instead of 180 degrees, and is indeed a wrap.

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    Midori Ito, I understand learned most of her jumps watching videos, as did a lot of the Japanese and Chinese skaters in the earlier days. That was part of the problem with the Chinese pair team with their spins - they learn by imitation and watching others. Now of course, Japan and China are both becoming more prominent in the skating world, so no doubt their coaching techniques will improve.

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    Erin Pearl had one of the worst wraps I've ever seen. It was like her shin was sticking out at a 90 degree angle when she was in the air. Bleack.

    One of the young Japanese ladies does it, but only on some jumps (or some more obvious than others) but I'm embarassed to say that I can't remember which one (Miki Ando?).

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    The leg wrap on Midori didn't really bother me because I was just so in awe of her awesome jumping.

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    Leg wrapping

    Personally, I find leg wrapping very unattractive and distracting. It's an ugly position, looks clumsy and shows a lack of control. Once a skater displays a leg wrap, I tend to watch each subsequent jump for the same poor technique which distracts from their program. It spoils the presentation of the program for me.

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    I actually liked Midori's air position. I don't think it looks distracting or unnatractive. I thought it gave her jumps a more unusual look, and made the number of rotations she was getting more obvious. Combined with her power, height, spring, smoothness, rotations etc... Midori was one heck of a jumper.

    (Kyoko Ina wraps, doesn't she? She did in the Olympics anyway, on her double axels at least. I don't think I'm imagining that.)

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    Wrapped jumps are when the knee of the skater's free leg is bent in the air and appears to be wrapped high around the skating leg. Wrapped jumps are considered poor technique. Good jumping technique should show the skater's body in the air with arms close or against the chest, legs extended with the free leg crossed over the landing leg at the ankles. And yes Midori Ito does wrap her leg.

    The picture of Sasha Cohen is good technique.

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    The great Midori's leg wrap didin't bother me because she excelled in almost everything else plus with those BIG jumps why would anyone pay attention to her leg wrap.

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    One of the young Japanese ladies does it, but only on some jumps
    Yukari Nakano. Not too surprising since she's coached by Midori's former coach. Only I don't think she's got the same jumping talent as Midori.

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    Wrapping Your Legs While Rotating

    Thanks for posting the great photos of "good" jumping technique and "wrapping" jumping technique.

    I guess I did not explain my meaning of the "wrapping", but as several posters very nicely wrote, a wrap is when one leg is bent at the knee in a 90 degree angle instead of having both legs wrapped fairly tightly together at the ankles.

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