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    I also totally agree with Smiley's comments. As much as I hate Ilia's comments after Worlds, he didn't do what other skaters haven't done before.

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    I don't like any dancing of pairs but it helps if I understood it better.

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    I never cared much for Tara Lipinski's skating. Despite the fact that she won US, World, and Olympic titles, she was nothing but an incredibly focused kid out there. Her artistry was improving, but she still looked like a little kid - totally undeveloped physically -
    and her presentation skills were still pretty much at the junior level. I understand her rationale for leaving the eligible ranks, with her serious injury that has effectively put an end to her performing her arsenal of triple jumps. Still, she just appeared to be a little kid who ran in, grabbed the gold medal, and said goodbye.

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    Originally posted by merfsk8s
    I wanted to add two more skaters to my earlier opinion. Irina Lobacheva and Ilia Averbukh - simply because they acted really rotten when they won silver this year at Worlds. They made all the usual Russian competitor comments about how the crowd wanted the Canadians to win and how Bourne and Kraatz were just given gold b/c it was their last comp.

    Perhaps being a gracious loser isn't something that is valued in Russia, b/c I've seen a pattern w/their competitors of sour grapes - Butyrskaya, Plushenko, and now Lobacheva and Averbukh. Granted, Americans aren't always perfect (think Nancy Kerrigan) when they lose -but, the Russians are always blaming someone else when they falter, whether it is the judges, the audience, the ice, or who knows what?

    It makes me ill....
    Add me to the "quit making stereotypes of Russian skaters" list. It's just not cool :(

    BTW, was looking in at Worlds FD practice on morning of event. Watched B/K cut directly between L/A twice during their runthrough, interrupting their flow. Does their rudeness not count because they are Canadian?

    And just for the record, I can't stand dance, but I don't like stereotypes and I know what I saw and I saw B/K playing the typical game before the event.

    Other sore losers I can think of off hand: Surya Bonaly, Tonya H., Nancy Kerrigan, S/P, and yes many more, from ALL DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. Being immature and childish over a loss does not have a nationality. It's the character flaw of an individual.
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    What I thought was funny was that Ilya Averbukh blamed the audience because their rock'n'roll number didn't go over well.

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    Thread re-opened

    I've changed the title of this thread and have re-opened it.

    Instead of listing what is not liked about skaters, perhaps it might be educational and interesting to see what "improvements" (in your humble opinions) these hard-working athletes could make

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    My least fav. has to be Maria Butyrskaya. The way she fell sometimes was painful to watch, falling, struggling up, one more glide, and the splat all over again. Got to admire her guts though.

    Next in line is Bourne of the B&B team. The sometimes in and sometimes out of character and flirting with the audience as if she is a politician doing the campaign makes for the less convincing and self-conscious skating. But I liked her last amateur program, the one that won her the world title.

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    I want Lu Chen to fix her camel spin. Everytime I watch it I cringe.
    There are novice skaters at my rink who do longer camels with better extension.

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    I want Timothy Goebel to improve his artistic expression (up to now there is next to nothing).

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    Just to state the obvious -- Timothy Goebel needs to improve his presentation skills. He REALLY needs to straighten his back and to show some emotion in his performances. He's still pretty "wooden" out there, as far as I'm concerned. His jumping ability is outstanding, however, but multiple quads are not enough to win World and Olympic titles. I sincerely hopes he makes those artistic improvements between now and the next Winter Olympics!

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    Originally posted by curious
    Plushy was right,Yags has nothing to do with his skating skills Mishin does.
    Even Mishin has referenced the fact that the rivalry pushed them both to do more. I would rather watch Yagudin over Plushy, but even I can admit that some of the most exciting competitions have been between the two of them. To beat the other one, they have to push harder and do more.

    Do you really think we would be seeing 4-3-3 or 4-3-2 from Plushy if Yagudin wasn't so consistent with the 4-3? The reason why Tim has to do 3 quads in his program is because he has to do them to get close to what Plushy and Yags can put out on the ice.

    For better or worse, the rivalry has pushed them farther than either one would have had the incentive/need to go on their own.

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    We all sound like a bunch of graduates from the Simon Cowell School of Criticism .....

    Petrova and Tikhonov mainly need to change their whole realm on the artistic end. It seems every time I've watched them skate over the past four years, they pick music that is monotonous and depressing, which, even with good speed, can drag the program down. I'd like to see them pick some music with fire and passion, for once. Currently they're programs are about as exciting to watch as it is to watch paint drying. On a picky note, I wish to high heavens that she would (along with Tatiana Totmiana) need to ditch the ultra-cropped, dyed red hair. Their 'dos seem to get shorter with each passing season, and if they keep going, I fully expect Maria P. to show up with a shaven head with a coat of Sherwin Williams on it.

    Viktoria is absolutely frustrating to watch. I just feel as though she doesn't pay attention to or doesn't care about finishing positions, stretching out, or showing any signs of life. Her music and programs aren't necessarily boring, I just always get the impression that SHE'S bored to tears on the ice, with an occasional expression of panic or fear. She's got the potential - and she's got some of the loveliest hand expressions in skating today.

    I'll probably get drawn and quartered for this, but I don't much care for Denkova and Stavisky. IMO she always has a 'hard' look to her facial expressions, even while smiling - I always get the feeling she's thinking "I'm going to beat up anyone that gets in my way - and this was before her whining and starting that petition after 02 Worlds.

    Plush - let Mishin coach his technical aspects, and get someone else to choreograph and pick his costumes. I always get the feeling his choreography tries to mimic Yagudin's from the prior season (and costumes - the black and gold SP costume he wore for his Adagio SP was too eerily reminiscent of Yag's MITIM LP costume). He'd also benefit from a muscle relaxant or two - I often wonder if various body parts are going to snap of and break like a dried twig. Not undeserving of his wins that I've seen, but he just doesn't do it for me.

    I just get frazzled when I see skaters that have all the necessary abilities and attributes physically/technically that get ruined by poor choreography, music selection, and polish. So many posters bring the same issues up over and over - if it's so obvious to everyone else, why can't they see it?

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    I said Plushenko's coach is the only person responsible for teaching him what he knows not Yagudin. They have push each other and the sport to a new level. Their rivalry is the most exciting I have seen. Too bad is coming to an end.

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    Thumbs up sasha cohen

    I like sasha choen soooo much, I don't know what to do!!!
    However she need help.

    two things:

    1) Edges
    Simply she needs to lean to skate on deeper/more confident edges. If she does that will so a long way to success.

    2) Performance stamina
    she needs to do full run-thoughs of her programs so muscle memory could kick in and she wouldn't make so many mistakes. Also this way the performance won't look "forced" as it did at nats. I think performace wise her best was skate canada and actually last years cambells( the performance just came to life more,imho)

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    I realize this is stating the obvious, but Sarah Hughes needs to correct her entrances into her jumps. That free leg is stretched out way, way too far, and she frequently lands awkwardly. Her posture could stand some improvement as well.

    But then again, she has an Olympic gold medal!!!

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