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    Takahashi splits with Morozov

    Takahashi Daisuke held a conference and announced he split up with Morozov.

    http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/news...OYT1T00484.htm

    Edited to include translation by champs.

    Takahashi Split with Morozov

    Figure skater Daisuke Takahashi, also a grad student at Kansai University, attended a press conference held at Shin-Yokohama Skating Center on May 6th, announcing that he would leave Mr. Nicolai Morozov.

    After the World Championships in March where he finished 4th Takahashi heard Morozov would be coaching Nobunari Oda, also a Kansai Univ student, starting from the next season. A week ago Takahashi decided and told Morozov(*1) that he would not be able to work together with Morozov any more. Asked why he made this decision, he explained that Oda is one of his chief rivals and thus he would not feel comfortable sharing the same coach. Since Morozov has also been his choreographer, he will be searching for a new choreographer as he continues to train at the university rink.

    Note *1: The original article doesn't explicitly say to whom he told, so I assumed it was Morozov (rather than indirectly informing Morozov by telling another party such as JSF)
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    From the title I presume Japanese skaters training abroad are going back home.

    I'm surprised about Dai. He seemed to find his niche with Morozov.

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    I thought Morozov did a good job in maximizing Takahashi's points under CoP, but couldn't help feeling that some of Dai's own style and personality were getting a bit lost in the process. I'll be very interested to see what kind of programs he'll be doing with his new coach (assuming the report is correct -and I second the request for translation) .

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    Best news I have heard today. Thanks for the translation.

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    champs, Thank you for the translation.
    Sorry Joe, I was upset by this news so I forgot the translation.

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    Thanks, Icebear and Champs.

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    I am really not surprised by this news. Daisuke is one of my favorite male skaters. I sure hope that this is a good move for him....I think it will be. Good luck Daisuke!!

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    Oh dear, I was kind of expecting this news once news came out that Oda would be coached by Morozov.

    I hope this move will benefit Takahashi.. Are there any articles mentioning who will be coaching him next?

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    Thank you very much for the news and translation!

    I have mixed feelings on this one. No doubt Takahashi was very disappointed for his result at the Worlds. Even if he doesn't blame it on Morozov at all, the acceptance of Oda, one of his closest and chief rivalries, to train under the same coach as his is a big enough reason for him to change coaches. However, his leaving is like to make his rivalry more comfortable and to give his rivalry a better training environment - because I think Morozov is good for Takahashi's future. Is his move good for himself?

    I feel that Morozov is an ambitious man. His ambition might take him to somewhere as a coach.

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    I don't understand why Morozov accepted Oda as a student when he already had Takahashi. He had to know it would upset Takahashi greatly. I guess he was willing to risk losing Takahashi over it, although I don't know why he'd want to take that chance.

    I'm not sure what this will mean for Takahashi. The fact is, he had much more success under Morosov than he had had under previous coaches. Hopefully he's internalized whatever Morosov taught him about competing and can keep that going with a new coach. As to his choreography, Takahashi is such a talented skater that I think any top-level choreographer will be able to show him off just as well as Morozov (and maybe with more originality).

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    That's sad news for me. I think Morozov was great for Dai, not only for the quality of his skating, but also for his mental strenght.

    But of course Daiis a great skater, so I hope that he will not forget what he learned with Morosov and continue to skate great, no matter with what coach.

    I can't help but think that this is also very bad for Nobu. Again he made a decision with a view to satisfy others, but it has a potential to blow in his face again. Now I have a feeling that no matter what happens he will be blamed for something (either taking away the coach from Dai and causing him to perform worse, or if Dai continues to skate well, for taking away the coach who could make him even better)... This is even worse because they will compete against each other... So of course everyone wants to win, but I'm afraid that Nobu might feel guilty and feel under pressure and not skate well... And again be blamed for wasting his coach's efforts, sort of...

    I'm sorry for my English, but I'm distressed by the news...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyria View Post
    I don't understand why Morozov accepted Oda as a student when he already had Takahashi. He had to know it would upset Takahashi greatly. I guess he was willing to risk losing Takahashi over it, although I don't know why he'd want to take that chance.
    Morozov actually did not "accept" Nobu, he was the one to suggest that they should work together.
    But I wonder as well why he or JSF didn't discuss this matter with Dai's managers...

    (...) (and maybe with more originality).
    I don't think there can be done much as original stuff as hip-hop Swan Lake! But I would like if Dai worked with Kenji Miyamoto, he did great (and very original) Gala programs for both Dai and Nobu.

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    wow, Im kinda shocked and saddened at the news. I wish Daisuke much luck in his coaching change. I had hoped to see new wonderful Morozov programs for Nobu & Daisuke. I hope the change doesnt affect Nobunari's mental state in competitions. I am just sooo thrilled that he is back competing We shall see how the change goes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by inskate View Post
    I don't think there can be done much as original stuff as hip-hop Swan Lake! But I would like if Dai worked with Kenji Miyamoto, he did great (and very original) Gala programs for both Dai and Nobu.
    I disagree. Though hip-hop specifically may have been new to skating (was it?), re-interpreted classical pieces are hardly groundbreaking, in skating and in popular music.

    In addition - and I know I'm in the minority - I didn't like the program. I read somewhere that it took Morozov some time to talk Dai into the concept, and I don't think it showed off his abilities to best effect. To me it had Morozov's stamp on it much more than Takahashi's - and at that level, I want to see the program reflect the skater more than the choreographer. I realize this is subjective, but I feel other skaters have done better in this respect. I would love to see Dai work with someone else and showcase his abilities and personality in a better way (not just CoP better ).

    I'm not familiar with Miyamoto's work, could you post links?

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    Very interesting. I wonder if this has anything to do with Morozov taking on Oda as a student. Perhaps these two are not the best of friends as we believed? Or maybe he just was not happy with his performance at worlds and feels (like tanith and ben) that a change is due? I think this is a good move for him. I think he is a very talented skater but I agree that his LP this past year wasn't really "him".

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