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    Good luck Big Brown

    The Belmont Stakes. One more win, boy. It's been 30 years too long since a Triple Crown.

    Belmont Park, 1 1/2 miles $1-million. Good luck Big Brown and a safe trip home for all.

    Name of horse
    record, earnings, speed figure
    record at Belmont track, speed figure at Belmont
    odds

    1. Big Brown
    5(5-0-0) $2,714,500 speed figure: 110
    Bel: 0(0-0-0)
    2/5

    2. Guadalcanal
    5(0-2-1) $16,100 speed figure: 97
    Bel: 0(0-0-0)
    why is a maiden entered in this race?
    50/1

    3. Macho Again
    9(3-3-0) $343,761 speed figure: 103
    Bel: 0(0-0-0)
    20/1

    4. Denis of Cork
    5(3-0-1) $413,552 speed figure: 99
    Bel: 0(0-0-0)
    12/1

    5. Casino Drive
    2(2-0-0) $185,282 speed figure: 109
    Bel: 1(1-0-0) speed figure: 109
    Two siblings have won the Belmont--Jazil and Rags to Riches
    7/2

    6. Da'Tara
    7(1-2-1) $64,067 speed figure: 99
    Bel: 1(0-1-0) speed figure: 88
    30/1

    7. Tale of Ekati
    7(3-1-0) $869,200 speed figure: 100
    Bel: 2(2-0-0) speed figure: 100
    20/1

    8. Anak Nakal
    7(2-1-0) $243,416 speed figure: 96
    Bel: 1(1-0-0) speed figure: 90
    30/1

    9. Ready's Echo
    4(1-2-1) $67,200 speed figure: 102
    Bel: 1(0-0-1) speed figure: 102
    30/1

    10. Icabad Crane
    5(3-0-2) $235,400 speed figure: 95
    Bel: 0(0-0-0)
    20/1

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    I hope his sore toe doesn't bother him.

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    He's doing quite well. These horses receive the best of care.

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    Best of luck to Big Brown. May all the horses run the race and have safe trips.

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    Dead last and eased at the wire. Desormeaux said BB didn't feel right underneath him.

    Longshot Da'Tara wins.

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    The only human connection with BB who showed any class at all was the jockey who had the sense to ease the horse up rather than risk serious injury. I know it wasn't BB's fault, but I couldn't root for a horse owned by people who viewed horses as a hedge fund (and have securities convictions in their past) and a trainer with doping infractions who was an arrogant SOB to boot.
    At least BB gets to look forward to life as a stud, passing along those porcelain feet to future generations of TBs.:frown2:

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    Here is one story among many recently that have brought up the extensive use of steroids to create these atifical running machines.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/sp...8b4&ei=5087%0A

    I had read earlier that Big Brown's trainers had decided after the Kentucky Derby to discontinue Big Brown's steroids just to prove that he could do it without them.

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    I always feel so nervous when the horses run. They are so close to each other and I'm always holding my breath expecting one to fall and get hurt, like Barbaro and Smarty Jones. I've also heard a lot about not only the steroid use but the fact that they are forcing these young horses to do so much before their bones are fully developed--sounds a bit like young figure skaters.
    I was sorry to hear Big Brown didn't win, but also glad to hear he didn't get hurt!

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    Ya can't "force" a 1,100 LB animal to run if he or she doesn't want to. My racehorse sure never wanted to run after one horse would pass him, and he came from very good breeding.

    Starting in 2009 all steroids will be banned from racing. They already are in Indiana, which has two tracks--Indiana Downs and Hoosier Park.

    Horses today make far fewer starts than horses in the 70s and
    80s, as the real money is in the breeding shed and not on the track. They also have more time between races.

    Track surfaces are also much safer today than 50 years ago.

    Horses don't carry weights like they used to.

    Smarty Jones never was never fatally hurt on the track.
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    Don't feel sorry for the Thoroughbreds who race. They are given the best of care. Feel sorry for the NYC carriage horse who works all day in 90+ weather, then has to walk back to his stable. Car/carriage horse accidents have been on the upswing. In one case a carriage horse was between two buses, when a bus ran right on top of the horse. Another horse walking the strets developed severe leg pain and died. His body was dumped in Central park like a piece of trash.

    And don't forget the dumb backyard breeders who just HAVE to breed animals who have no business being bred. They end up at slaughter. here is a sampling from a recent auction, where the meat buyers make bids:
    Minis / Ponies:
    2 – Mini stud, pinto, thin - $90
    4 – Mini mare, bay, thin, shaggy clumps of coat hanging off her - $150
    3 – Mini mare, reg’d, 1987 model, white-gray, drives, 3 week old foal at side - $385
    5 – Mini mare, sorrel, very pretty, triple reg’d, ch lines, “open” - No Sale @ $310
    6 – Medium pony mare, grade, black, child rode through - $150
    7 – Large pony gelding, reg’d POA, 8yo, super cute!! – NS @ $950, wanted $1200
    8 – Small/medium pony gelding, grade leopard app, cute - $400
    9 – Medium pony mare, grade, white-gray, hot & fast, gamer - $500
    10 – Medium pony mare, grade, 10yo, pinto mostly white - $150
    11 – Small pony mare, grade, 10yo, led thru but sup. broke, 2 mo filly at side, ch/wh pintos, cute - $450

    12 – Large pony gelding, chestnut, grade, very cute, calm, “lesson pony,” ridden Eng / jumped - $435
    13 – Medium pony mare, chocolate/flaxen w/ roaning, cute, grade, 10yo, in foal - $425
    14 – Medium pony gelding, grade, 9yo, bay, fit, pretty and refined but coarse head - $110
    16 – Mini mare, small child rode through w/halter, shaggy, silver-chocolate/flaxen, looked foundered - $150
    17 – Medium pony mare, reg’d POA, “As-is,” red roan, small feet, well trained - $135
    18 – Medium pony mare, “too much horse for my 5 year old,” super cute liver ch/flaxen, grade - $60
    19 – Mini “stud colt” 2yo, thin, palomino, really long toes, tried to rear up on handler! - $60
    20 – Medium pony gelding, grade, 9yo pinto, dirty, long toes, plain head but cute – NS @ $110, wanted $300

    Horses and a Mule:
    25 – 15.2 2002 mare, ch/white overo reg’d APHA, has 2 WP points, cute, clean X-rays – NS @ $1700

    26 – 15.3 2001 reg’d QH gelding, bay, NICE horse, HYPP N/N, super well trained – NS @ 3500 wanted $4000

    27 – 15.1 1994 mare, reg’d QH, sorrel, tiny feet, sold w/ papers but no transfer (?) - $675

    28 – 15.1 1999 gelding, reg’d solid app, chestnut 2 front socks, ridden by child – NS @ $1400
    30 – 14.3 2yo grade stallion, black/brown, led thru, stepped on owner in flip-flops J - $25 (yes… $25)
    31 – 14.3 2yo grade stallion, chestnut, very pretty, lofty prancing trot, very cute - $80
    29 – 15.2 1998 reg’d APHA gelding, gray/white, ridden west. but looked like an Eng. mover – NS @ $1200
    32 – 15.2 1996 red dun QH, nose rubbed raw, nice build, seemed well trained and calm - $2500
    33 – 15h grade QH gelding, gorgeous body but calf knees, led thru, supposedly broke, “cow bred” - $385
    34 – 15.2 2002 reg’d Friesian/TB sport horse mare, bay, cute, slightly posty back legs – NS @ $1200
    35 – 15.1 2005 reg’d QH mare, black, glossy, beautiful, petite, well trained for WP in snaffle – NS @ $1000
    36 – 15.1 4yo grade (full sib to #33) gelding, sorrel/flaxen, led thru, supposedly broke, “cow bred” - $360
    37 – 15.2 2003 reg’d gelding, grulla/white tobiano, pretty WP horse, small feet – NS @ $2400 wanted $3000
    38 – 15.1 7yo reg’d APHA gelding, stock/ranch build, mostly white, great hip and shoulder – NS @ $1500
    39 – 14.3 2001 reg’d pinto gelding, chestnut/white tobiano, little skittish - $400
    40 – 16.1 1998 reg’d grey/black points gelding, looks like a TB, well trained, child rode thru – NS @ $1800
    41 – 15h 1997 QH mare, black, NRHA points, very cute, spins/stops well, super compact build – NS @ $3800
    43 – 15.1 2002 reg’d QH bay gelding, HYPP N/N, photos of horse eventing, cute – NS @ $900 wanted $1500
    44 – 15h reg’d QH strawberry roan w/4 socks and blaze, overbite, balky, whipped a lot with reins - $475
    45 – 15h 5yo reg’d APHA, cutting horse, bay tobiano, good build but straight(ish) shoulder – $3400
    46 – 15.1 2003 reg’d QH, poor skinny sorrel, nervous, led thru but supposedly broke, clean/groomed - $160
    50 – 15.2 fugly grade bay pinto, tovero, RF toed in horribly, 2 small kids rode through (no helmets) - $675
    47 – 15.1 4yo reg’d APHA cute mare w/7 halter pts, bay w/belly spot and chrome, well started – NS @ $2000
    53 – 15h 1993 reg’d TWH mare, black w/hind socks, kids slid all over rump and yanked tail - $800
    49 – 15.1 7yr reg’d QH mare, black w/star, reiner, a little green but pretty – NS @ $2300
    57 – 15.1 1993 reg’d Standardbred gelding, bay no white, trotter, short steep croup, led thru, “As-is” - $235
    74 – 15h 5yo grade pinto gelding, overo, black with some roaning, average build, green broke - $200
    51 – 15.2 reg’d QH, red dun, good build but straight shoulder, big solid muscled mare, well trained - $2400
    59 – 16.1 2004 TB unraced gelding, bay, cute front but flat short croup, sound on old bows, sweet face - $400
    55 – 15.2 1999 reg’d Appendix mare, sorrel, HYPP N/N, bay/white tobiano foal at side – NS @ $1400
    54 – 15.2 5yo reg’d QH mare, chestnut, WP trained well but built like stock horse, “no Impressive” - $2100
    61 – 16h 9yo poor skinny rough-coated TB mare, ribby/wormy but nice conformation - $175 (good home) FHOTD in: Thank you for noting that. I would have been upset about her.
    56 – 15h 6yo reg’d QH gelding, black, no white, good build, W-W brand on left hip - $2500
    66 – 15.1 1996 reg’d solid paint gelding, sorrel, paddled, small feet – NS @ $550 wanted $800
    58 – 16h 6yo reg’d QH gelding, sorrel, cute, horse acted up and was NS by owner before bidding could start.
    68 – 14.3 grade QH palomino trail horse, polished up, balky, plain head - $800
    69 – 16.2 10yo Appendix gelding, gray, 3’ fences w/ auto changes, nice mover, ridden by child - $1650
    60 – 15h reg’d solid paint mare, black, low front socks, good feet – NS @ $1500
    70 – 16.1 reg’d TWH, big grulla gelding, well trained, calm – NS @ 2900 wanted $3500
    62 – 14.3 6yo reg’d QH mare, palomino, petite, cutting lines, “bred last week, sells with LFG!” – NS @ $1400
    71 – 14.3 15yo grade sorrel kids’ mare, “go anywhere do anything,” maybe just fat but looked in foal - $400 72 – 15.3 5yo Appendix, sorrel, looked very TB, well trained, child rode thru – NS @ $1800 wanted $2500
    64 – 15.2 10yo reg’d solid paint, sorrel with 4 high whites and blaze, super cute – NS @ 2500 wanted $2800
    75 – 15.1 1997 bay QH gelding, “lost the papers,” plain but cute, well trained - $535
    76 – 15.1 10yo Foundation QH gelding, black, “As-is,” led thru, “will flip over, crippled a man up.” - $385
    77 – 15.2 14yo grade chestnut gelding, small child rode through, calm - $775
    78 – 15.2 grade QH mare, fleabitten gray, bump on side of head by eye, rode her bridle-less - $375
    80 – 16h 10yo QH gelding, “lost the papers,” well trained WP horse, “As-is,” moved short in hind - $410
    81 – 16.3+ 5yo TB/Clyde cross, bay gelding, very cute and very leggy, green broke - $960
    79 – 14h 9yo grade mare, bay, very fat and very cresty, feet OK, led thru - $275
    82 – 14.1 1995 grade QH gelding, dark palomino, quiet, long back / disproportionately short legs - $1000
    83 – 16.2 19yo TB mare, bay, gorgeous, sold w/breeding to nice WB, “can’t afford her anymore” - $260
    85 – 15.2 14yo grade chestnut gelding, youth games horse, hot and up - $525
    84 – 15.2 TB mare, chestnut, “As-is,” led thru, nice trot, petite - $285
    86 – 15.1 fugly 9yo QH gelding, chestnut, led thru, supposedly broke, antsy, very tiny feet - $410
    88 – 15h grade QH gelding, small feet with flare - $360
    87 – 15.3 2yo grade Perch/TB cross (yet somehow a pinto), started U/S 2 weeks ago, calm - $1900
    89 – 15.2 7yo QH/Morgan, cutest face, reared and almost flipped in the aisle - $275 (was bid before the rearing)
    95 – 15h 4yo white Mule gelding, had dark eyes but pink skin, cute but hard to steer - $550

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