Page 5 of 9 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast
Results 61 to 75 of 123

Thread: ISU Grand Prix announced

  1. #61
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    199
    Love the Finnish Ladies. Great technicians with very classic skating.

    Well, it's gonna be a big year for them. Expect them to dominate European's and attempt to get Finland 3 spots for Olympics.

    All 4 Ladies from the Finnish team are equally talented with certain strengths and weakness (They sure do have the most exciting nationals behind US and Japan!) But if one can emerge consistently strong technically this season, they might have an outside shot at the GPF. If not, I expect plenty of Top 5 finish from these ladies on the GP Series.

    Right now, Lepisto is my favorite. Whether she has master the Lutz and Flip over this summer is key, she has already proven how high in the standings she can rank without those jumps. That proves the great quality and edging from her skating.

    Korpi has her ups and downs, but perhaps she has mature from this recent WC, and can get her consistency back together.

    And like I said about Good Ole Poykio, Skate America is just a matter of whose been preparing the best over the summer and can come the cleanest that night, so Poykio has an outside shot to play spoiler there.

    Finlandia Trophy is no doubt the best early season event, so we'll get a better picture there.

  2. #62
    Go NJ Devils
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    2,700
    Poykio was guaranteed one spot because she is top 24 in the ISU World Standings. I'm thrilled that she was chosen for Skate America, but I wouldn't necessarily chalk this up to generosity.

    By selecting Flatt and Nagasu, they already knew that these two would be up against the required 1-3 (Kim) and 4-6 (Nakano) selections, and then the selection rules dictated that Miki Ando be given two spots after the 4-6 selections, due to having the 5th highest PB score. Since Sarah Meier's PB was 9th on the list, that meant that Zhang (7) and Flatt (8) had higher scores than a skater in the top 6 at Worlds, and they were chosen after 4-6 as well.

    If there was a specific order in which the selections had to be made (Ando, Zhang, Flatt) this suggests that USFS and CoC were either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in the Federation selection order (3rd if the Japanese Federation, whose roster of Japanese Ladies was filled by host selections, was 1st or 2nd). If there was not a specific order, USFS had no choice but to select Ando, since Flatt was already a host choice and the USFS couldn't choose a 4th US Lady.

    Meissner was in the 7-9 group. It was either she, Lepisto, or Korpi.
    Last edited by hockeyfan228; 06-16-2008 at 03:36 AM.

  3. #63
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    3,563
    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Only one more thing to mention for me: Is Jenni Vahamaa going to make a statement?

    Joe
    I hope so! Anyway, I have a feeling that in season 2007-2008 she had some kind of injury that prevented her from jumping the lutz? If she will be healthy in coming season, she will have all her jumps and be really awesome, in my opinion.

  4. #64
    Custom Title fumie_fumie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    955

    Let the prediction begin

    skate america

    ladies

    1. Yu-na kim: too obvious, she starts a season like a race horse.
    2. Nakano: super consistent
    3. Flatt: super consistent

    men: just random thoughts.
    1. weir
    2. lysacek
    3. KVDP: I want to see the revival of the "Lawrence of Arabia"

    Pairs
    1. savchenko/szolkowy
    2. Keauna McLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    3. Meagan DUHAMEL / Craig BUNTIN: big question mark on whether Buntin can regain his form after the surgery.

    dance
    1. Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER: respect for the champs.
    2. Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO
    3. Sinead KERR / John KERR

    the dance entries are amazing

    Skate Canada: overall very good entry

    ladies
    1. Kostener: respect for the champ as well
    2. Zhang: zhang probably surpasses Rochette by next season in terms of technical content.
    3. Rochette

    men - what was Skate Canada smoking?
    1. Lambiel: my prediction is he will be the the comeback kid of the year.
    2. Lysacek: super motivated, rejuvenated, more arm-flailing.
    3. Buttle: He is usually off in early season.
    4. Chan: depends on whether he has 2nd 3A and a quad under his belt.

    pairs.
    1. Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV:
    2. Jessica DUBE / Bryce DAVISON
    3. Anabelle LANGLOIS / Cody HAY: the eternal underdog team.

    dance - again, what was Skate Canada smoking?
    1. Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
    2. Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
    3. Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT
    4. Vanessa CRONE / Paul POIRIER

  5. #65
    The Zamboni Rocks!!! sillylionlove's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    East of the Pacific, West of the Atlantic, South of Canada and North of Mexico
    Posts
    1,890
    The lineup at Skate America is crazy this year. I sure wish I was going, especially Evan and Johnny at the same event!!

    So happy to see that Emily has an assignment. Hopefully she won't withdraw.

    It was nice to see Amanda and Mark get an assignment. I also see that John and Rena are competing in the grand prix this year.

    Hopefully Adam and Brandon will have a great senior debut like Stephen did last year.

    Well only a few more months to go before everything kicks off....although I am sure that there will be withdrawals, additions and changes before then.

  6. #66
    Custom Title Mathman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Detroit, Michigan
    Posts
    28,253
    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan228 View Post
    Poykio was guaranteed one spot ...
    Thank you for this post, Hockeyfan. There seems to be a lot of discussion about what "strategies" are available to Federations for trying to nurse their skaters into the finals. Taking the time to read the selection rules puts the process in a different light.

  7. #67
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Birmingham, Alabama, US
    Posts
    162
    Any word on television or web-casting in the US? I know NBC has Skate America. I was hoping icenetwork might try to get a contract for the GP series.

    Susan

  8. #68
    Custom Title fumie_fumie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    955
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Thank you for this post, Hockeyfan. There seems to be a lot of discussion about what "strategies" are available to Federations for trying to nurse their skaters into the finals. Taking the time to read the selection rules puts the process in a different light.
    On the other hand, you would think strong entries may better prepare the skaters for non-GP events, notably two most important events of the season - Europeans and Worlds.

  9. #69
    Custom Title Joesitz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    20,185
    1. I just don't think all individual GPs are equal in strength. Compare SA to CoC.
    Host Countries have a lot more to say than how the prior stats turn out.

    And, there are duplicates as well, e.g., skaters, two in one event are the same in another event, e.g. Flatt/Meissner and another is Wagner/Hacker. Not easy to believe the rules brought that out.

    2. In prior years, if Sasha wanted France, she got it; if Johnny wanted Russia, he got it. If Kwan didn't want to travel beyond Canada, she didn't.

    just can't believe that the Host Countries do not have a say in all this. Kostner has an easy trip to the Finals.

  10. #70
    Custom Title dwiggin3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    765
    I was surprised that both Hughes and Czisny had slots...hopefully neither will WD....but I almost expect Hughes to.

  11. #71
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    7,555
    Hughes has said that she wants to make it to Nationals this year. She has to do Regionals, but the TEB assignment will keep her out of Sectionals. If she withdraws from TEB, then she has to do Sectionals if she wants to make it to Nationals.

    Maybe she'll wait to find out who she'd have to face at Sectionals once Regionals is over. She won't have to face Kimmie or Katrina Hacker, because both skaters will have byes due to their GP assignments. Wagner is exempt from Regionals/Nationals due to her 3rd place finish. So it looks as if Emily wouldn't have much of a problem at Sectionals if she were to skip TEB.

  12. #72
    Tripping on the Podium alekzu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    61
    I'm really glad to see that our two boys from Sweden, Berntsson and Schultheiss, got two assignements each. I'm really going to try to follow the GP competitions this year. Hopefully I'll be able to watch it over the internet. And the line-up for SA is insane! I almost choked when I realized that Evan and Johnny were both on that event. I hope KVDP will be able to make it to SA. My hihghlight however will be NHK. Gotta love the Japanese. Takahashi is my absolute favourite, Weir is going to be there, as well as our very own Adrian. Awesome. No Plushenko in sight though. Just have to wait and see what happens there. I really do love the summer. But please, let it be autumn soon.

  13. #73
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    7,555
    Quote Originally Posted by fumie_fumie View Post
    skate america

    ladies

    1. Yu-na kim: too obvious, she starts a season like a race horse.
    2. Nakano: super consistent
    3. Flatt: super consistent

    men: just random thoughts.
    1. weir
    2. lysacek
    3. KVDP: I want to see the revival of the "Lawrence of Arabia"

    Pairs
    1. savchenko/szolkowy
    2. Keauna McLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER
    3. Meagan DUHAMEL / Craig BUNTIN: big question mark on whether Buntin can regain his form after the surgery.

    dance
    1. Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER: respect for the champs.
    2. Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO
    3. Sinead KERR / John KERR

    the dance entries are amazing

    Skate Canada: overall very good entry

    ladies
    1. Kostener: respect for the champ as well
    2. Zhang: zhang probably surpasses Rochette by next season in terms of technical content.
    3. Rochette

    men - what was Skate Canada smoking?
    1. Lambiel: my prediction is he will be the the comeback kid of the year.
    2. Lysacek: super motivated, rejuvenated, more arm-flailing.
    3. Buttle: He is usually off in early season.
    4. Chan: depends on whether he has 2nd 3A and a quad under his belt.

    pairs.
    1. Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV:
    2. Jessica DUBE / Bryce DAVISON
    3. Anabelle LANGLOIS / Cody HAY: the eternal underdog team.

    dance - again, what was Skate Canada smoking?
    1. Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
    2. Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
    3. Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT
    4. Vanessa CRONE / Paul POIRIER
    I'm puzzled. You have McLaughlin/Brubaker beating Duhamel/Buntin at Skate America and winning silver, but you have them off the podium at Skate Canada. If McL/B can beat D/B, then they can also beat L/H. Remember, they beat both D/D and L/H at NHK last season.

    I also think Kostner, like Buttle, is not so good in the early season, so I'm not sure she automatically goes to the top of the podium at SC. Zhang may be having growth issues, which may contribute to her URs. If she has her URs under control and if she can hold her spiral and spin positions the requisite number of seconds/turns, she could generate some pretty high scores. But those are a lot of ifs. OTOH, Joannie must control her nerves and skate a clean SP.

  14. #74
    Custom Title fumie_fumie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    955
    I was doing it just for the heck of it. What else can you do during the off season other than making outrageous predictions or following up on the gossip boards? I wanted to do for all the 6 events, and then I got tired of it.

    As for McLaughlin/Brubaker, I just miss them in Skate Canada entries. Otherwise, I would have placed them ahead of L/H, possibly D/D. ITA. I think they can duke out with L/H and D/D at any given day, especially considering their latest improvements.

    As for Kostner, you are right. However, I honestly didn't see anyone else who can beat Kostner.

    Speaking of growth issues, ladies of Asian descent don't seem to have as much of a growth issue as other skaters.
    Last edited by fumie_fumie; 06-16-2008 at 12:00 PM.

  15. #75
    Custom Title Joesitz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    20,185
    Much too early for predicting placements in these GPs, imo. Just read who in what event will be on the podium. Then check out, will that be enough to make it to the Finals. How many skaters won an individual GP and took a dive elsewhere. I can think of one who wasn't even close in Worlds.

Page 5 of 9 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •