So, it is good that SA invited both Rachael and Mirai so that their GP senior debuts would be guaranteed with two spots. Zhang has already been senior, so it looks like a good assignment that two other GP events than SA invite her.
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I think both Rachael Flatt and Mirai Nagasu would have received two assignments even if they had not been chosen for Skate America.
Brandon Mroz, the JGPF silver medalist, got two assignments even though he didn't medal at Junior Worlds and wasn't top 24 on the SB list. Certainly Flatt, the JW Champion (and JGPF silver medalist and #8 on the SB list), and Nagasu, the JGPF champion (and JW bronze medalist and #12 on the SB list), would have received two assignments. All three were in the top 24 on the ISU World Standings list as well.
Anyway, that's the past.
Good for him, though.
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Interesting for me is the selection of Yan Liu, Bin Shu-Xu (for non Chinese events) and Samson and the absence of Berton and Suizu.
Yan Liu: 31 (worlds), 72 (WS), 53 (SB)
Bin Shu-Xu: - (worlds), 33 (WS), 47 (SB)
Samson: - (worlds); 31 (WS), 54 (SB)
Berton: - (worlds), 29 (WS), 43 (SB)
Suizu: - (worlds), 25 WS), 46 (SB)
If Kim's name had been submitted by the Korean Fed, then she would have been guaranteed a spot, and her name would have appeared on the first published lists. It would have been removed had she decided to remain junior before the cut-off, based on the slot(s) she was given. Since her name did not appear on the initial selection, it means the Korean Fed didn't submit her name.
Unless before the names were submitted, the Korean Fed (or proxies) queried all of the host Federations to see who would select her, and all of them said, "only if we're forced to" (because of the guaranteed rules), they wouldn't have known not to submit the name of their skater.
Suizu and Berton had made it to the 2006-2007 JGPF and both had finished in the top 10 at 2007 Junior Worlds, but they had tough seasons in 2007-2008. Berton didn't win a single medal in the JGP this past season, and she dropped to 13th at JW. Suizu won two bronze medals in the JGP, but remained first alternate to the JGPF and dropped to 16th at JW after a disastrous 21st place in the FS. Suizu did manage to win Japanese Junior Nationals over Yuki Nishino, but the end of her season had to have been a major disappointment.
I couldn't help wondering if these two ladies had had either an injury or a growth spurt that affected them last season.
Thank you so much for explaining the general process, which I had not known clearly about. While I am still thinking that Yu-Na could have made her debut as a Senior that year, it is also great for me to know that she herself (or through conversation with the Korean Fed.) might have chosen to stay at the Junior level. Must have had a plan.
I think it will be especially exciting to see the Grand Prix Final this year - as the event will combine both Junior and Senior events. Will bring to light the arbitrariness of the "age restriction" rules IMO as in some of the disciplines (ladies and pairs in particular) one would question whether the fields differ materially in terms of execution... at least on a technical level. Given how concentrated a lot of the skaters are with coaches... there are going to be some mighty busy/tired coaches at THAT event...
First replacement assignment: Vise and Trent for Skate Canada, taking the spot vacated by Peatsch and Nuss' breakup. They're now on the roster:
No surprise here; they were considered to be first on line to get a second assignment.
Plus, you can also get 2 spots if your score is in the top 24, I'm fairly sure Yu-na's was in the 2004-2005 season.
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Medal at the JGPF
Medal at JW
Place in the top 24 on the ISU Ranking list
Place in the top 24 on the Seasons Best list
However, they are not guaranteed more than one spot even if they meet all 4 criteria. They MIGHT get two assignments, but there is no guarantee that they will.
Cases in point:
Paetsch/Nuss were 11th on the ISU Ranking list and 22nd on the SB list, and with the disqualification of Bazarova/Larionov from the JGPF, Paetsch/Nuss won the JGPF bronze medal. Even though they met 3 of the 4 criteria, they only got one GP assignment.
Vise/Trent were 15th on the ISU Ranking list and 9th on the SB list, but they got just one GP assignment (they did get a second assignment as a substitute after Paetch/Nuss withdrew).
Li/Xu were 13th on the ISU Ranking list and 18th on the SB list, but got just one GP assignment.
Emily Hughes was 17th on the ISU Ranking list and 14th on the SB list, but she got just one assignment.
OTOH, Anastasia Gimazetdinova was 23rd on the SB list, and met no other criteria, yet she got two GP assignments. Jenni Vahamaa was 13th on the ISU Ranking list and met no other criteria, yet she also got two GP assignments.