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    WATCH Now!! - Rachael Flatt new sp awesome!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fiercemao
    Rachael Flatt SP 'Moon River'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbCu-ZmKV5o

    When are they going to get that sign fixed?

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    Don't really like that music for Rachael. It does nothing to highlight her strengths, and makes her lack of extension and her poor posture really obvious. She needs something more upbeat and fun, and less dainty.

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    SENIOR PAIRS SP (Thursday night)
    58.36 Evora/Ladwig
    46.20 Moscovitch/Moscovitch (CAN)
    43.13 Paulin/Shales (CAN)
    40.46 Denney/Barrett

    Friday's Senior results...

    SENIOR PAIRS FS
    99.36 Evora/Ladwig
    85.32 Moscovitch/Moscovitch (CAN)
    72.74 Paulin/Shales (CAN)

    SENIOR MEN SP (jump notes for top 10 with reference to the detailed protocol)
    68.55 Bradley - 4t-3t, 2a(hand down?), 3z
    66.00 Rogers - 4t-2t, 3z, 3a(landed pitched forward)
    63.59 Chan (CAN) - 3a, 3f-3t(fall), 3z
    59.70 Oi - 3a, 3f-3t, 1z
    59.31 Abbott - 4t fall, 1a, 3z; highest PCS score
    57.51 Razzano - 3a, 3f(flip out, no combo), 3z
    54.82 Raad - 3a fall, 3f-3t, 3z
    52.92 Cassar - 3f-2t, 2a(fall out), 3z< fall; 5th highest PCS score
    52.23 Pfeifer (AUT) - 3f-3t, 2a, 1z
    51.19 Messing - 2a, 4s< fall/no combo, 3z
    50.53 Mroz
    49.45 Russell (CAN)
    49.36 Varner
    47.61 Wong
    46.58 Crowley
    44.72 Brewster
    42.51 Metivier (CAN)
    38.27 Mueller
    36.71 Chastain
    34.41 Povzikov (CAN)
    24.76 Gordon

    SENIOR LADIES SP A (jump notes for top 6 with reference to the detailed protocol)
    59.29 Wagner - 3z-2r, 3f, 2a
    50.93 Gilles - 1f, 3z-2t, 2a
    50.65 Rizo - 3z< fall, 3t-3t, 2a
    49.31 Forte - 3z-2t, 2a, 3s
    46.74 Bereswill - 3f-2t, 3z< fall, 2a
    44.58 Musademba - 3f-2t, 3z fall, 2a
    40.11 Legg
    39.17 Secundy
    37.31 Zhalko-Tytarenko (CAN)
    34.22 Melton
    29.07 Pflumm
    24.09 Hamui (MEX)
    23.05 Yee

    SENIOR LADIES SP B (jump notes for top 5 with reference to the detailed protocol)
    58.94 Flatt - 3f-2r, 3z, 2a
    54.88 Rosenthal -3f-2t, 3s, 2a
    52.68 Nguyen - 3f-2t, 3z, 2a
    49.83 Czisny - 2z-2t, 3f< fall, 2a
    44.70 Bulanhagui - 3f< fall, 3z<-2t, 2a
    43.71 Kim
    41.36 Telecky
    40.24 Gendron
    36.88 Houston
    34.17 Kiang
    32.54 Cloutier
    30.22 Manzouri
    29.07 Zinsmeister
    28.02 Brandt

    'gloryday' has posted the following 8 home videos from Friday (only a few, select Senior Men and Ladies SP & FS programs will be filmed at Liberty this year):

    Ryan Bradley's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYRFDycJSQ

    Shaun Rogers' SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBz0MrAZDTw

    Patrick Chan's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsrjA-ylSQE

    Curran Oi's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwi6MpdyFKg

    Jeremy Abbott's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6QC9rFaFUk

    Rachael Flatt's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbCu-ZmKV5o

    Ashley Wagner's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZknHnp82n8

    Brittney Rizo's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQNbPv9IXQ

    Message from 'gloryday':
    This is all I can get uploaded tonight. (This year they didn't have a camera policy at all at Liberty, so I'm uploading them directly to youtube. I'll get them on fsvids later.) I'm tempted to get some red tape and fix their sign on the boards, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    59.31 Abbott - 4t fall, 1a, 3z; highest PCS score
    His skating is always very enjoyable to watch... Actually I see Abbott as the most artistic male skater of USA (maybe even of the whole world) these days, he is the only skater that very much reminds me of the great John Curry.

    Who is coaching Abbott? I think that he very much needs to find himself a great jump coach (Callaghan?) and quickly! The Olympics are approaching and now is the time if he is ambitious. Otherwise he will just have wonderful artistry, but will not succeed in competitions the way he could do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    59.29 Wagner - 3z-2r, 3f, 2a
    She's ahead of Flatt, with similar jump content.
    50.93 Gilles - 1f, 3z-2t, 2a
    Good score. She left points onthe table with the flip and still scored 50 points.
    54.88 Rosenthal -3f-2t, 3s, 2a
    This is Blake, not Stephanie, right?
    52.68 Nguyen - 3f-2t, 3z, 2a
    Who is this skater? Someone to be on the lookout for?
    49.83 Czisny - 2z-2t, 3f< fall, 2a
    Just not meant to be, I guess.

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    Rachael Flatt is determined to get to the Olys. She has to be a workaholic. Saw no underrotations, jumps high, speed to the music, feel for the music, any put downs, she will correct immediately.

    True, she is no Audrey Hepburn. Only one skater can measure up to that, imo, and that is Vikka Volchkova.

    Will be watching the youtubes, thank Sylvia for everything.

    Saw the results. Not surprised with Abbot dunking but superior in PCS.

    Must watch Secundy. She was my pick last season.

    So many skaters that I have seen and found promising but land up on the bottom half. Oh Well, It's very early season and it is so hot and humid on the East Coast. Any way these guys and gals get a chance to tweek.

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    Jaana, Jeremy Abbott is coached by Tom Zakrajsek, the same coach as Rachael Flatt, Ryan Bradley, and formerly Ann Patrice McDonough. I agree that he is the most artistic US man and personally, I would rank him in the top 3 artistically in the world, along with Stephane Lambiel and Jeffrey Buttle. Abbott reminds me a lot of Matt Savoie and, coincidentally, they share the same choreographer in Tom Dickson. If he could get a firm grasp on the consistency of his 4toe and his 3Axel, there's no question in my mind that he would be in podium position at Worlds and Olympics. He has to skate a clean/solid short program and a clean/solid long program though and that is a difficult task for any skater, not just Jeremy Abbott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Rachael Flatt is determined to get to the Olys. She has to be a workaholic. Saw no underrotations, jumps high, speed to the music, feel for the music, any put downs, she will correct immediately.

    True, she is no Audrey Hepburn. Only one skater can measure up to that, imo, and that is Vikka Volchkova.

    Will be watching the youtubes, thank Sylvia for everything.

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    I agree - fantastic outing. My only nitpick - I'd like to see Rachel open her shoulders more - really stretch her upper body more. Other than that, she looks good and is very, very pleasant to watch.

    I have to say, I was totally with Wagner. Maybe I don't know her skating well enough, but this struck me as an unexpected change - or sign of versality - soft, flowing, really pretty to watch. I think the program is very nicely choreographed too and she seemed so at ease with it so early in the season. I'm starting to think we are going to have two US ladies nationals in a row that will be nail biting intense competitions...and I look forward to it!

    Thanks for the updates and links!

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    I really liked Racheal's SP. Jumps were solid as a rock, i enjoyed a lot of the choreography and some of her positions in the begining were very pretty. She seems very comfortable in it for such a new program.

    only one thing bothers me... this girl should be wearing over the boot tights for a competition. somebody that short should be wearing something that extends the leg line. and i hope she will get a new dress for the GP... the one she was wearing was last year's dress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    ....Nguyen. Who is this skater? Someone to be on the lookout for?....
    2008 Southwest Pacific Regional Championships, Junior Ladies

    FPl. Name Points SP FS

    1 Ellie Kawamura All Year FSC 140.21 1 3
    2 Anna Malkova All Year FSC 129.55 4 1
    3 Victoria Rackohn All Year FSC 127.50 2 4
    4 Carolyn-Ann Alba All Year FSC 126.85 6 2
    5 Angelyn Nguyen Los Angeles FSC 119.22 3 6

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    The icenetwork has an article about the ladies.
    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news

    Is that Blake Rosenthal's personal best? She may have re-dedicated herself after not qualifying for Nationals.

    Ashley is a senior lady now. Her flow is reminiscient of Alissa's. Rachel has improved positions in her spins, spirals, and in general. I had to rewatch both ladies to register their step sequences, as seamless as the elements were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    only one thing bothers me... this girl should be wearing over the boot tights for a competition. somebody that short should be wearing something that extends the leg line. and i hope she will get a new dress for the GP... the one she was wearing was last year's dress.
    and we all wonder why a lot of people can't find the SPORT in figure skating if that's the only nitpick then she's well on her way.

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    Rachel has realy improve but it is Wagner's program that really stood out for me. I was surprise how much I like it. It was nice to watch herbreathe through a program instead of speed. Everyone's spin has better speed centering and interesting instead or wierd positions. I must disagree about Abbots being of of the top artistic skaters along with Buttle and Takahashi or even Matt Savoi. He has great choerography but he could so much more with it. He often doesn't finish moves or carry them throough. His posture and positions are often too relaxed. And he can be sometimes guilty of noodle arms.

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    I just watched the vid of Ashley's SP... and WOW... shes really grown as a skater over the summer. I LOVE the program already!

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