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    In defense of Flatt,as mentioned in an IceNetwork interview, she was in Boston for a couple of weeks for an academic program and has only been back training for alittle over two weeks. Her coach mentioned that this was a chance for them to get Rachael's programs out and get some feedback from the judges, etc. With just two weeks of training under her skates, Rachael should be happy with a good SP performance and no doubt, the LP will develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    The LP's take a long time to upload.

    Here's Alissa Czisny skating to Dr. Zhivago in her LP

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPS6a80XhI8
    thanks for the link! What a lovely program that is. I'm so happy for her with such a great skate under her belt. I don't normally like the catch foot spiral but hers is gorgeous - she has such flow across the ice. Way to go Alissa. I look forward to seeing her in person at Skate Canada!!

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    Doris,

    thanks so so so much for the vids and the comments!!! It is always so interesting to me how different skating looks live vs. video. I do hope Wagner continues to improve those areas you mentioned....and wow, good for Rachel to be this ready with so little practice time under her belt...she is definitely someone to watch out for!

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    Nigel, I thought Rachael's long looked very new to her. It's amazing she only had both her programs for that short a time.

    Mr. Ski stuck a piece of blue tape over the missing section of the P in the vandalized sign yesterday. Rachael's extended spin in front of the sign was a last straw. In fact, we have added opaque tape to camera bag as a requirement for trips for IceWorks.

    Here's Alexe Gilles' short program:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqhOfb0nwyU

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Are the protocols on line anywhere yet?
    Liberty has never published detailed result protocols online. However, they currently are in the process of uploading the official results on their club site -- link is: http://www.libertyskating.org/2008Results.html

    Here are all the (unofficial) results of the Novice-Senior events from Saturday, with a few jump notes based on my limited notes and a check of the protocols:

    SENIOR MEN FS
    122.70 P Chan (CAN)
    119.70 C Oi
    118.22 S Rogers
    114.21 J Abbott
    113.85 R Bradley
    113.52 J Cassar
    109.64 D Raad
    108.09 D Razzano
    107.56 J Wong
    105.44 J Russell (CAN)
    100.88 G Varner
    100.43 V Pfeifer (AUT)
    93.85 W Brewster
    88.35 B Mroz
    87.04 K Metivier (CAN)
    79.07 J Povzikov (CAN)
    67.98 R Crowley
    67.31 D Mueller
    34.60 S Gordon

    SENIOR LADIES FS A
    94.79 A Gilles
    85.32 B Bereswill
    82.11 B Rizo
    80.35 J Forte
    71.59 K Musademba
    63.50 K Pflumm
    61.03 D Zhalko-Tytarenko (CAN)
    56.78 A Legg
    54.32 L Hamui (MEX)
    50.86 L Yee
    48.42 E Melton

    SENIOR LADIES FS B
    103.73 A Czisny
    82.94 R Flatt
    70.56 A Nguyen
    70.08 B Rosenthal
    65.52 C Kiang (TPE)
    60.80 M Telecky
    56.12 J Houston
    55.94 R Gendron (CAN)
    55.66 J Kim
    53.31 M-C Cloutier (CAN)
    50.00 J Manzouri
    47.97 T Brandt

    JUNIOR MEN FS FINAL
    116.81 Mahbanoozadeh - jumps: 2a, 3f-3t, 3z(off balance)-3t(tight landing), 3s, 2a-2t-2r, 2a, 3r, 3z
    116.18 Corvasce - 3a-2t, 3z(turn out), 3a, 2f, 3r(shaky landing), 2a, 3z-2t-2r, 3s-2t
    113.17 Hochstein - 3z-3r(flip out), 3f(turn out)-2t-2r, 2a, 3s, 3f-2t, 3z, 3t, 2a
    109.49 Johnson - 3f-3t, 2z, 2a, 3r, 2z-2r-2r, 3f, 3s-2a seq., 2a
    106.21 Miner - 3a<(fall), 3f-3t, 3z-2t, 3r, 3z, 3s, 3f(fall), 2a
    96.75 Ting - 3z(turn out)-2t, 3f, 3r(hand), 3s, 2a-2t, 3z, 3t, 2a
    86.99 P Parkinson (CAN)
    83.51 M Chau
    79.63 W Michael
    66.92 C Berneck (GER)
    WD: A Aiken [K Messing withdrew earlier]

    JUNIOR LADIES FS FINAL
    82.91 G Schorg - 3r-2t, 3z, 3f, 3t(pitched forward landing), 2a-2a, 2a(turnout)-2t, 2z
    76.43 A Zawadzki - 2a-2t, 3z, 2s, 3s, 3t, 3t-2t, 2a (landing problems on 2nd-5th jumps)
    73.07 M Secundy - 3z fall, 3r-2r, 2a, 3z-2t-2r(hung on), 3s<, 3t(high free leg on landing), 2a-2a
    73.03 K Gong - 2a-3t, 3f<(step out), 3s, 3t-2t-2r, 2a, 2z-2t, 1f
    71.54 C Gao - 3z(fall out), 3t, 3s fall, 2z, 3t(flip out), 2a-2t, 2r
    70.65 K Traunero - 3f fall, 2a, 3z fall, 2a, 3t-2t, 3s-2t, 3s-2t-2r
    69.61 K Rowley - 3t-2t, 3s-2t, 2a-2a(fall out), 2z, 3s fall, 3t, 2a
    64.27 A Kononenko
    63.43 H Dunne
    62.71 K Steward
    62.39 F Zhang
    58.09 C Denney
    56.21 B Oi
    56.02 M Ure (CAN)
    56.00 A Bereswill
    55.86 L Ryan

    JUNIOR PAIRS FS
    75.51 Castelli/Shnapir
    74.32 Tanovich/Chau
    73.78 Jones/Gaskell (CAN)
    67.47 Pigeon/Last (CAN)
    66.91 Moore-Towers/Evans (CAN)
    65.04 Aaron/Cohen
    64.91 DeRita/Accardi
    60.36 Ryan/Toth

    NOVICE LADIES FS FINAL
    74.56 K Baga [37.12 TES/37.44 PCS] - 2a, 3t-2t, 3s, 2f-2t, 3s+seq., 1t
    72.51 L Dinh [39.39/33.12] - 2z, 3r<, 3s, 3t-2t-2r, 3t-2t, 2a-2a
    61.70 S Tarleton
    60.82 L Hood
    60.30 Y Siraj
    59.16 A Brickman
    59.13 A Wang
    57.10 M Gueli
    56.07 R Dost
    55.19 S Veloso
    54.59 Mad. Koehler
    53.54 J Nishimoto
    53.50 T Galonski
    52.61 D Kabanova
    52.26 M Erikson
    50.68 S Cusack
    47.84 M Frost
    45.45 S Eisen
    WD: H J Miller, S Sylvester

    NOVICE PAIRS FS
    64.72 Tou/Cohen (CAN)
    63.55 Bobak/Penasse (CAN)
    57.48 Duarte/Grafton
    57.28 Gifford/Bodnarek

    If you haven't already checked it out,.Icenetwork has a good selection of articles and backstage photos from Liberty

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    Thanks for the results, Sylvia. I was afraid that they did not publish the protocols at all. It would be nice to see at least the PCS and TES scores separate, let alone what levels the competitors got.

    Perhaps icenetwork can persuade Liberty to part with this info in the future.

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    I love Ashley's new look. Her dress was beautiful and she is more graceful in this program. Also love the hair - no cutesy 80's ponytail! Great for this early in the season. No make sure of no more edge calls!

    Rachael's SP program is lovely and I like Moonriver. Is this a new dress or the same one from last year? Same hue. I think she is quite musical and interpretive using her head to her fingers with expression that is beyond her years. I thought she looked like she had good speed in her short with the exception of in and out of the double axel. I think that is the one jumps she really needs more height and speed through.

    Alexe is a beautiful skater that covers so much ice because of her stature. She is proof that a tall skater can jump. I cant wait to see her fully develop her style - she still looks a bit stiff but wow, great start to the year.

    I am so happy for Alissa. I can watch her skate all day. She has the most beautiful line, spins and spirals! I hope she can continue to work toward jump consistency and getting less downgrades. Oh, and what a beautiful smile - truly endearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Liberty has never published detailed result protocols online. However, they currently are in the process of uploading the official results on their club site -- link is: http://www.libertyskating.org/2008Results.html

    Here are all the (unofficial) results of the Novice-Senior events from Saturday, with a few jump notes based on my limited notes and a check of the protocols:

    SENIOR MEN FS
    122.70 P Chan (CAN)
    119.70 C Oi
    118.22 S Rogers
    114.21 J Abbott
    113.85 R Bradley
    113.52 J Cassar
    109.64 D Raad
    108.09 D Razzano
    107.56 J Wong
    105.44 J Russell (CAN)
    100.88 G Varner
    100.43 V Pfeifer (AUT)
    93.85 W Brewster
    88.35 B Mroz
    87.04 K Metivier (CAN)
    79.07 J Povzikov (CAN)
    67.98 R Crowley
    67.31 D Mueller
    34.60 S Gordon

    SENIOR LADIES FS A
    94.79 A Gilles
    85.32 B Bereswill
    82.11 B Rizo
    80.35 J Forte
    71.59 K Musademba
    63.50 K Pflumm
    61.03 D Zhalko-Tytarenko (CAN)
    56.78 A Legg
    54.32 L Hamui (MEX)
    50.86 L Yee
    48.42 E Melton

    SENIOR LADIES FS B
    103.73 A Czisny
    82.94 R Flatt
    70.56 A Nguyen
    70.08 B Rosenthal
    65.52 C Kiang (TPE)
    60.80 M Telecky
    56.12 J Houston
    55.94 R Gendron (CAN)
    55.66 J Kim
    53.31 M-C Cloutier (CAN)
    50.00 J Manzouri
    47.97 T Brandt

    JUNIOR MEN FS FINAL
    116.81 Mahbanoozadeh - jumps: 2a, 3f-3t, 3z(off balance)-3t(tight landing), 3s, 2a-2t-2r, 2a, 3r, 3z
    116.18 Corvasce - 3a-2t, 3z(turn out), 3a, 2f, 3r(shaky landing), 2a, 3z-2t-2r, 3s-2t
    113.17 Hochstein - 3z-3r(flip out), 3f(turn out)-2t-2r, 2a, 3s, 3f-2t, 3z, 3t, 2a
    109.49 Johnson - 3f-3t, 2z, 2a, 3r, 2z-2r-2r, 3f, 3s-2a seq., 2a
    106.21 Miner - 3a<(fall), 3f-3t, 3z-2t, 3r, 3z, 3s, 3f(fall), 2a
    96.75 Ting - 3z(turn out)-2t, 3f, 3r(hand), 3s, 2a-2t, 3z, 3t, 2a
    86.99 P Parkinson (CAN)
    83.51 M Chau
    79.63 W Michael
    66.92 C Berneck (GER)
    WD: A Aiken [K Messing withdrew earlier]

    JUNIOR LADIES FS FINAL
    82.91 G Schorg - 3r-2t, 3z, 3f, 3t(pitched forward landing), 2a-2a, 2a(turnout)-2t, 2z
    76.43 A Zawadzki - 2a-2t, 3z, 2s, 3s, 3t, 3t-2t, 2a (landing problems on 2nd-5th jumps)
    73.07 M Secundy - 3z fall, 3r-2r, 2a, 3z-2t-2r(hung on), 3s<, 3t(high free leg on landing), 2a-2a
    73.03 K Gong - 2a-3t, 3f<(step out), 3s, 3t-2t-2r, 2a, 2z-2t, 1f
    71.54 C Gao - 3z(fall out), 3t, 3s fall, 2z, 3t(flip out), 2a-2t, 2r
    70.65 K Traunero - 3f fall, 2a, 3z fall, 2a, 3t-2t, 3s-2t, 3s-2t-2r
    69.61 K Rowley - 3t-2t, 3s-2t, 2a-2a(fall out), 2z, 3s fall, 3t, 2a
    64.27 A Kononenko
    63.43 H Dunne
    62.71 K Steward
    62.39 F Zhang
    58.09 C Denney
    56.21 B Oi
    56.02 M Ure (CAN)
    56.00 A Bereswill
    55.86 L Ryan

    JUNIOR PAIRS FS
    75.51 Castelli/Shnapir
    74.32 Tanovich/Chau
    73.78 Jones/Gaskell (CAN)
    67.47 Pigeon/Last (CAN)
    66.91 Moore-Towers/Evans (CAN)
    65.04 Aaron/Cohen
    64.91 DeRita/Accardi
    60.36 Ryan/Toth

    NOVICE LADIES FS FINAL
    74.56 K Baga [37.12 TES/37.44 PCS] - 2a, 3t-2t, 3s, 2f-2t, 3s+seq., 1t
    72.51 L Dinh [39.39/33.12] - 2z, 3r<, 3s, 3t-2t-2r, 3t-2t, 2a-2a
    61.70 S Tarleton
    60.82 L Hood
    60.30 Y Siraj
    59.16 A Brickman
    59.13 A Wang
    57.10 M Gueli
    56.07 R Dost
    55.19 S Veloso
    54.59 Mad. Koehler
    53.54 J Nishimoto
    53.50 T Galonski
    52.61 D Kabanova
    52.26 M Erikson
    50.68 S Cusack
    47.84 M Frost
    45.45 S Eisen
    WD: H J Miller, S Sylvester

    NOVICE PAIRS FS
    64.72 Tou/Cohen (CAN)
    63.55 Bobak/Penasse (CAN)
    57.48 Duarte/Grafton
    57.28 Gifford/Bodnarek

    If you haven't already checked it out,.Icenetwork has a good selection of articles and backstage photos from Liberty
    What happened to Ashley in FS? I don't see her name..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks777 View Post
    What happened to Ashley in FS? I don't see her name..
    It was not yet ready for competiition and she went home.

    But does anyone have a youtube of Alexei Gilles?

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    Ski rocks, both taping and taping!

    Alissa was only six points off her personal best, despite the fall on the flip. I believe that Alissa has a true Lutz and a true flip, but her flip is a big problem. At U.S. Nationals she missed her flip in boith the short and long programs, just like here. Maybe she should drop this jump and put in an extra loop instead.

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    Yes, Joe, there is a clip of Alexe's sp:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqhOfb0nwyU

    I have footage of her long program but haven't uploaded it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
    In defense of Flatt,as mentioned in an IceNetwork interview, she was in Boston for a couple of weeks for an academic program and has only been back training for alittle over two weeks. Her coach mentioned that this was a chance for them to get Rachael's programs out and get some feedback from the judges, etc. With just two weeks of training under her skates, Rachael should be happy with a good SP performance and no doubt, the LP will develop.
    Yet Rachael's overall skating showed that it's unlikely she'll have the 3A this season. Her 2A in the SP was small. I believe that the jumps she downgraded were in the 2nd half of her FS. Regardless, with her moderate speed and her other struggles in the 2nd half of her FS's, I think that while Rachael is consistent, she needs more power.

    And while I liked Ashley and Rachael's SP's, it's better for the SP to be the faster of the two programs (vs. the FS). The SP requires less endurance and you want to attack it. YuNa, Mao, Mirai, and Carolina can put up huge SP scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Yes, Joe, there is a clip of Alexe's sp:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqhOfb0nwyU

    I have footage of her long program but haven't uploaded it yet.
    Thanks doris, I look forward to her LP. Meantime, I would give Alissa an edge over Alexei. Both of them seem iffy whenevr they take to the ice.

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    Jonathan Cassar LP Liberty 2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SPQ2gqP9z8

    Who is this Joanthan Cassar? He interprets the music so well. The choreography is just great.

    Curran Oi 2008 Liberty LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuPAfLlm5q8

    I also have no idea whom Curran Oi is. He is a great jumper although the music puts me to sleep.

    Patrick Chan' LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_jMKNpnGNE

    Patrick Chan needs to run away from Lori Nicoles ASAP. She is running out of steam. The music is dreadful, and the choreography all looks the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiercemao View Post
    Jonathan Cassar LP Liberty 2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SPQ2gqP9z8

    Who is this Joanthan Cassar? He interprets the music so well. The choreography is just great.
    saw him LIVE at nationals in 2006 and fell in love with his skating! he's fantastic, but he left his jumps on the practice ice in St. Louis

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