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    Thumbs up Johnny Weir Journal - July '08

    Finally, another excellent Journal entry from Johnny (7/5/08):

    http://figureskatersonline.com/johnnyweir/journal.html

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    Nina Petrenko's work vs. TAT's work this season? How will Johnny and Evan play out? I have no idea. It seems that Johnny stepped down a little and Evan stepped up. Of course, with Galina being Johnny's coach, I didn't expect to see Johnny works with Tatiana. We have to wait and see.

    Good to know that Johnny sees positively about Lambiel training with him. It might turn out to be the best thing for both of them because they can push each other to be better.

    Wonder who will be Lambiel's choreographer? I hope it's not someone in the same camp.
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    Happy to hear Johnny's speaking positively about Stephane training with him...very nice things to say about him as well good to hear.

    I hope Stephane continues to work with his long-time choreographer Salome Brunner. Back during Worlds, Stephane said he was planning to work with Antonio Najarro again too (he (along with Salome brunner) choreographed Stephane's short, and Flamenco program this past season. Antonio Najarro did a wonderful job on those programs and I hope he'll be working with him again, if he hasn't already. There's been no word as of yet if Stephane has started work on his new programs.

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    As always, Johnny's journals are filled with news and funnies like:

    I was feeling very full of myself and the next day (my birthday) I ran, arms flailing, into the sea only to spot a six inch long black fish and run screaming from the surf.


    Dee

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    I think Johnny would do well as a writer or in the media. He's smart, articulate, funny, and seems to have a lot of diverse interests that would really contribute to a successful career in those fields - as a viewer or reader, I much prefer people who can speak/write about a variety of subjects. I hope he considers it after retirement (not too soon, of course!).

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    thanks for posting, once again an interesting read.

    Glad to hear that he is eating again and that he is not being a ***** about Stephane moving in.

    I am not sure that Nina Petrenko was the best choice for him. He exhibition program IMHO is not very good.

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    as always a fun read, yeah i'm not so shure about nina petrenko neither, but i TRUST Johnny; he woudn't do it if he didn't feel she could help him in some way, so i'm very excited to see him next season.

    he's so funny.... that part about him in the ocean, i can just picture it :-)
    i'm curious to see what his lp music will be, his short is by saint preux "i did a little research and that music has Johnny writen all over it-soft, piano,angelic,classic,JOHNNY!!

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    Great journal entry! I'm not at ALL JEALOUS about his vacation spot....:chorus::chorus:

    I was thrilled to read he is doing a new strength work out and eating - just what I wanted to hear!!!! I can't wait to see how he skates this year.

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    It was very fun and interesting to read his journal as usual.
    His journal never bored me.

    Ha ha… The black fish in the sea part cracked me up, too. It’s only 6 inches fish ! Of course there are fishes in a sea, besides it’s near the jungle. LOL, so cute !
    He is too funny !! But why he chose to go there ?
    Love his sense of humor. I guess the fish might have been teasing him when the fish saw him in the sea. .

    It’s nice to hear about his feeling about the issue of Lambiel’s coaching change and taking it only positive way. Hopefully all will go well for both of them.

    As for Nina’s choreography, I love his Ave Maria EX number, it touched my heart deeply. And in Nationals EX and etc.. he got standing ovation for that number, ( with his great performances ) so I think it was successful.

    But right now I don’t even know his music for next season, so I can not say and don’t judge by only the choreographer. In the past , he was usually putting his idea for his choreography in his programs, and not only depending to his choreographer ( including Tarasova ) , and I always loved watching his expression and sensitive movements and beautiful polished line. Hopefully Judges will love his new programs.

    I look forward to seeing his new programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annlfs View Post
    as always a fun read, yeah i'm not so shure about nina petrenko neither, but i TRUST Johnny; he woudn't do it if he didn't feel she could help him in some way, so i'm very excited to see him next season.

    he's so funny.... that part about him in the ocean, i can just picture it :-)
    i'm curious to see what his lp music will be, his short is by saint preux "i did a little research and that music has Johnny writen all over it-soft, piano,angelic,classic,JOHNNY!!
    I don't care for the music. It sounds like generic muzak.

    Sample here:

    http://www.saint-preux.fr/en/disco.html

    If Johnny wants a soft piece or a piano piece or piece from a French composer, why not a classic from Debussy...something with more power, depth and meaning than a generic piece of forgettable muzak. I would love to see Johnny perform to "Afternoon of the Faun," or "Engloutie Cathedral."

    If Johnny wants to skate to Russian music, why not the piano version of Mussourgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition," or a Scriabin piano sonata. I just dont want to see Johnny skate to another piece of generic muzak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layman View Post
    something with more power, depth and meaning than a generic piece of forgettable muzak.
    That may be a bit harsh on Saint Preux. He is no Debussy, but I actually like his music. He is an acclaimed composer (I know - just because he is acclaimed doesn't mean that he is good...) of contemporary classical music, with several prices and cooperations with prestigious orchestras. Some of his compositions venture a bit into the generic pseudo-classical-music - but apart from that he sure knows what he is doing and his orchestrations are really good (we studied some of them in theory of music at music school). My favourites

    http://www.saint-preux.fr/en/disco_opera.html
    - the first one, called "Sur les ailes du temps"

    http://www.saint-preux.fr/en/disco_pologne.html
    - "Symphonie pour la Pologne"

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    Quote Originally Posted by layman View Post
    I don't care for the music. It sounds like generic muzak.

    Sample here:

    http://www.saint-preux.fr/en/disco.html

    If Johnny wants a soft piece or a piano piece or piece from a French composer, why not a classic from Debussy...something with more power, depth and meaning than a generic piece of forgettable muzak. I would love to see Johnny perform to "Afternoon of the Faun," or "Engloutie Cathedral."

    If Johnny wants to skate to Russian music, why not the piano version of Mussourgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition," or a Scriabin piano sonata. I just dont want to see Johnny skate to another piece of generic muzak.
    Johnny's taste in music is questionable. "Love is War" was a bit on the trashy side--a bit of quasi-dramatic drivel, it was. But it worked for him!?! I love Stravinsky's Firebird as a possibility. It is really wonderful, dramatic music and I believe Johnny could relate to it. It didn't work the best for Kurt Browning (in competition) or Micki Ando, and several others. But it's Russian--and couldn't Tarasova work wonders with it! (Evan, perhaps?)

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    Thanks Layman for posting the link to Saint-Preux music. I am a huge fan of Johnny and I have to agree with you. IMO but I didn't care for anything I heard - at all. Still, I am hoping that whatever Johnny choses, it somehow works for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Lee View Post
    Johnny's taste in music is questionable. "Love is War" was a bit on the trashy side--a bit of quasi-dramatic drivel, it was. But it worked for him!?! I love Stravinsky's Firebird as a possibility. It is really wonderful, dramatic music and I believe Johnny could relate to it. It didn't work the best for Kurt Browning (in competition) or Micki Ando, and several others. But it's Russian--and couldn't Tarasova work wonders with it! (Evan, perhaps?)
    I love Firebird, and you are right, we have never seen a really great (Browning wasn't bad...) / successful (in terms of results) interpretation of it. But I always thought that both Firebird and Sacre du printemps would suit Lambiel exceptionally well. I have no doubt that Lysacek could rearrange his flail-choreography from Carmen (and his other programs) and skate to Firebird - but wouldn't that insult Stravinsky and Fokine? Tarasova may be able to give him some new moves - but I doubt that you can give someone the understanding/feeling of this fantastic music, especially if this someone is/was proud of the fact that he is so ignorant to classical music that he never had heard of Carmen before he skated to it.

    I am also not sure that Johnny could carry the dramatic depth of the music (well, he sticks to the lyrical stuff - so we just don't know). Buttle could probably do it better than Johnny. But my favourite for this music is Lambiel, he could be wonderful with it.

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    Thanks for the music links.

    "Sur les ailes du temps" is pretty nice, but the other one sounds pretty bad.

    The firebird is an amazing composition, and I love it for skaters, but I think Johnny's bird days are behind him. I cannot picture him doing the firebird well.
    Stephane could do it. he can do anything.

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