View Poll Results: Who would you have crowned?

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  • Alexei Yagudin

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    25 43.10%
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Thread: Yagudin vs. Abt, 02 Euros

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    Yagudin vs. Abt, 02 Euros

    Who did you think deserved to win this one? For me, it was Abt all the way. Yagudin just made too many mistakes, and Abt skated beautifully and completely cleanly - I'd say it was probably the performance of his life. He also had a very musical programme, and is a very good skater technically, despite his inconsistencies (usually through injuries).

    So who would you have given it to?
    Last edited by icenut84; 08-30-2003 at 03:11 PM.

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    I can't remember this comp at all. Sigh. Wish I had them all on tape.

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    Hate to admit it: But THIS was Sasha's night; he should have won.

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    Abt deserved to win, Yags had to many mistakes.

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    Poor Abt won the comp but they gave it to Yags. According to Yags press conference his bad performance was Plush's fault for not competiting there. Funny guy:D

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    just another case of judges 'holding up' someone for whatever reason. there was no question about it. Abt won!

    Joe

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    Sasha, for sure. I just could not believe Yags won that competition with such a sub-par performance. I guess it goes to show you that there is biased judging even when skaters come from the same country--it's not just an "east vs. west" problem.

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    I didn't get to see it, unfortunately

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    I recall that Yags had so many mistakes, but Abt just had a 2foot landing on one of his jumps. I would have given it to Abt, no doubt about it

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    Originally posted by sk8guy2k2
    I recall that Yags had so many mistakes, but Abt just had a 2foot landing on one of his jumps. I would have given it to Abt, no doubt about it
    Robin Cousins (Brit commentator) thought that he might have touched down with his free toe on his first triple axel, but if he did it was so slight that you couldn't even tell for sure on the slow-mo replay. It wasn't a 2 footed jump, any way you look at it. Just clarifying.

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    i didn't see it :(

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    Geez, where was I during Euros?? How did I manage to miss it? Well, I usually enjoy Yagudin more than Abt, but since I didn't see what happened.....

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    Going against the majority here... I think Yagudin won rightly. Yes, he made mistakes and Abt skated a superb pogram, but you can't compare the difficulty between the two programs. A program isn't just jumps and I think Abt's program was easier and actually emptier in terms of content.

    Many times the judges put a performance with flaws over a clean one and there are reasons behind that. Plushenko also skated pretty bad at Worlds and he still deserved to win, even though Goebel had probably one of the best skates of his life that night (at least to me).

    IMHO.

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    It was Abt all the way. This is another reason why the 6.0 system needs to go. The judges will have to base their marks on each individual element and can never get away with holding up certain skaters for "unknown" reasons.

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    I already voted, but I didn't comment... I haven't seen it, so I don't know. From what I've read (here and on other boards; in the newspapers, etc.) I'd go with Abt, but I do know of a few people who first felt that Abt was robbed, but after reviewing the programs carefully they changed their minds.

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