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    Ladies LP and Final Results

    Pl. Name Nation TSS
    = TES
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    + SS TR PE CH IN Deduction
    - StN.
    1 Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN 97.93 54.93 43.00 5.53 5.19 5.34 5.44 5.38 0.00 #30
    2 Angela MAXWELL USA 93.44 45.65 47.79 6.09 5.72 6.06 5.94 6.06 0.00 #27
    3 Shoko ISHIKAWA JPN 83.45 40.63 42.82 5.50 5.13 5.31 5.38 5.44 0.00 #31
    4 Stefania BERTON ITA 82.15 37.35 45.80 5.81 5.47 5.72 5.81 5.81 1.00 #32
    5 Marissa SECUNDY USA 81.02 42.46 39.56 5.16 4.69 4.94 5.00 4.94 1.00 #25
    6 Sandy HOFFMANN GER 80.83 42.45 38.38 4.91 4.59 4.81 4.84 4.84 0.00 #24
    7 Oksana GOZEVA RUS 79.43 36.40 43.03 5.66 5.25 5.19 5.38 5.41 0.00 #23
    8 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN 74.41 36.18 39.23 5.03 4.59 5.06 4.84 5.00 1.00 #29
    9 Na-Hee SIN KOR 71.91 32.80 40.11 5.19 4.69 5.00 5.03 5.16 1.00 #34
    10 McKenzie CRAWFORD CAN 71.78 36.52 35.26 4.66 4.19 4.34 4.41 4.44 0.00 #17
    11 Olga IKONNIKOVA EST 65.62 29.12 37.50 4.78 4.47 4.69 4.72 4.78 1.00 #26
    12 Isabel HEINTGES GER 65.32 37.67 27.65 3.97 3.03 3.41 3.53 3.34 0.00 #12
    13 Dasa GRM SLO 62.64 30.45 32.19 4.28 3.84 3.94 4.06 4.00 0.00 #19
    14 Sofia OTALA FIN 61.84 26.02 37.82 4.66 4.53 4.78 4.75 4.91 2.00 #13
    15 Katrin KUNISCH AUT 61.38 27.77 33.61 4.41 3.94 4.19 4.25 4.22 0.00 #14
    16 Angelica OLSSON SWE 60.74 27.53 35.21 4.63 4.19 4.31 4.44 4.44 2.00 #21
    17 Anita MADSEN DEN 58.92 24.46 34.46 4.50 4.06 4.28 4.38 4.31 0.00 #28
    18 Stefanie PECHLANER BUL 57.45 27.48 29.97 3.75 3.41 3.88 3.72 3.97 0.00 #6
    19 Kristina KOSTKOVA CZE 56.51 28.00 29.51 3.78 3.53 3.63 3.75 3.75 1.00 #10
    20 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 55.04 22.99 32.05 4.00 3.75 4.06 4.09 4.13 0.00 #15
    21 Ekaterina PROYDA UKR 54.93 18.87 39.06 5.03 4.81 4.69 4.97 4.91 3.00 #33
    22 Radka BARTOVA SVK 54.78 22.94 32.84 4.44 3.94 4.03 4.09 4.03 1.00 #20
    23 Matleena LAAKSO FIN 53.42 22.09 34.33 4.47 4.13 4.06 4.41 4.38 3.00 #22
    24 Aneta MICHALEK POL 52.78 25.89 26.89 3.69 3.09 3.31 3.34 3.38 0.00 #2
    25 Juna DRABYSHEVSKAIA BLR 51.61 21.59 30.02 3.91 3.47 3.81 3.88 3.69 0.00 #16
    26 Zanna PUGACA LAT 51.17 20.81 30.36 3.97 3.56 3.75 3.78 3.91 0.00 #9
    27 Yong Myong PHYO PRK 50.59 22.34 29.25 3.66 3.34 3.75 3.72 3.81 1.00 #5
    28 Kyl-Jade BETTERIDGE AUS 49.86 23.34 28.52 3.88 3.41 3.44 3.53 3.56 2.00 #11
    29 Isabelle OLSSON SWE 48.21 17.89 32.32 4.13 3.94 3.88 4.19 4.06 2.00 #18
    30 Fanni FORGO HUN 47.28 19.51 27.77 3.66 3.16 3.53 3.50 3.50 0.00 #7
    31 Clara PETERS IRL 44.13 20.19 23.94 2.94 2.81 3.09 3.06 3.06 0.00 #3
    32 Barbara VILLARREAL MEX 39.55 18.00 21.55 3.06 2.44 2.72 2.69 2.56 0.00 #1
    33 Monia ALEKSIC CRO 38.80 15.13 25.67 3.22 3.13 3.03 3.41 3.25 2.00 #8
    34 Maria TSAKIRIS GRE 34.76 13.29 22.47 2.88 2.75 2.66 2.91 2.84 1.00 #4

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    Final standings

    FPl. Name Nat. Points SP FS
    1 Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN 148.25 2 1
    2 Angela MAXWELL USA 136.59 7 2
    3 Stefania BERTON ITA 134.90 1 4
    4 Shoko ISHIKAWA JPN 133.54 3 3
    5 Sandy HOFFMANN GER 123.52 8 6
    6 Marissa SECUNDY USA 123.12 9 5
    7 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN 119.71 6 8
    8 Oksana GOZEVA RUS 118.08 11 7
    9 Na-Hee SIN KOR 117.57 5 9
    10 McKenzie CRAWFORD CAN 108.88 13 10
    11 Olga IKONNIKOVA EST 105.13 10 11
    12 Ekaterina PROYDA UKR 103.32 4 21
    13 Dasa GRM SLO 98.04 14 13
    14 Isabel HEINTGES GER 97.62 20 12
    15 Anita MADSEN DEN 96.33 12 17
    16 Angelica OLSSON SWE 95.90 15 16
    17 Sofia OTALA FIN 94.27 19 14
    18 Katrin KUNISCH AUT 92.59 22 15
    19 Matleena LAAKSO FIN 87.72 17 23
    20 Stefanie PECHLANER BUL 87.59 27 18
    21 Radka BARTOVA SVK 87.27 18 22
    22 Kristina KOSTKOVA CZE 86.82 25 19
    23 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 85.38 24 20
    24 Juna DRABYSHEVSKAIA BLR 83.65 21 25
    25 Isabelle OLSSON SWE 82.81 16 29
    26 Aneta MICHALEK POL 82.17 30 24
    27 Zanna PUGACA LAT 81.45 26 26
    28 Kyl-Jade BETTERIDGE AUS 80.55 23 28
    29 Fanni FORGO HUN 77.06 28 30
    30 Yong Myong PHYO PRK 74.70 34 27
    31 Clara PETERS IRL 71.15 31 31
    32 Monia ALEKSIC CRO 68.29 29 33
    33 Barbara VILLARREAL MEX 65.34 32 32
    34 Maria TSAKIRIS GRE 59.49 33 34

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    Protocols are up too:

    Ladies SP:

    http://www.isufs.org/results/jgpcze2..._SP_Scores.pdf

    Ladies lP:

    http://www.isufs.org/results/jgpcze2..._FS_Scores.pdf

    I'm sad for Ishikawa-3rd in both sections, but no medal. And worrying for Berton, who now has been 4th & 3rd in two events--will she miss the GPF? I hope not!.
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    I'm delighted for Angela Maxwell and Yukiko Fujisawa!
    These two have by far the best LP scores all year. First two ladies to crack 90 points.


    Count me as another who feels bad for Shoko Ishikawa. She had a rough deal. Hopefully she can win silver or gold at her next event and qualify for the final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm sad for Ishikawa-3rd in both sections, but no medal. And worrying for Berton, who now has been 3rd in two events--will she miss the GPF? I hope not!.

    Berton was 4th in her first event in Courchevel, so she has 20 points. She probably isn't going to make the JGPF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    FPl. Name Nat. Points SP FS
    1 Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN 148.25 2 1
    2 Angela MAXWELL USA 136.59 7 2
    3 Stefania BERTON ITA 134.90 1 4
    4 Shoko ISHIKAWA JPN 133.54 3 3
    5 Sandy HOFFMANN GER 123.52 8 6
    6 Marissa SECUNDY USA 123.12 9 5
    Who will replace Secundy at John Curry Memorial in Sheffield? Maybe Tenile Victorsen?

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    Need some info: Why was Secundy zapped from a second assignment. She did 9th in SP and 5th in LP to finish 6th overall - 1 pt behind Berton in the LP?

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    Were there some rules about what a skater had to achieve in their first event to qualify for a second? Or is it just up to US Figure Skating and there are no real rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Were there some rules about what a skater had to achieve in their first event to qualify for a second? Or is it just up to US Figure Skating and there are no real rules?
    I think it's just a USFSA rule -- if my memory serves me right, last year, Elladj Baldé (current Canadian Junior Champion) was 14th and 7th in his assignments, and in that order, so Skate Canada must not have the same rules as in the U.S. Then again, maybe there just weren't enough skaters to choose from...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Were there some rules about what a skater had to achieve in their first event to qualify for a second? Or is it just up to US Figure Skating and there are no real rules?
    Here is some relevant history about US Nationals novice medalists, including Secundy:

    2006 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Rhiana Brammeier 138.23 => didn't get a JGP assignment
    2 Blake Rosenthal 127.16 => 7th in the JGP Taiwan, no 2nd assignment and it was too late to get a 2nd assignment anyways
    3 Brittney Rizo 124.27 => didn't get a JGP assignment
    4 Michaelee Scarincio 121.30 => didn't get a JGP assignment

    2007 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Angela Maxwell 131.65 => 3rd in the JGP USA 120.26, no 2nd assignment
    2 Kristine Musademba 129.25 => 2nd in the JGP Austria 137.16, 4th in the JGP Great Britain 117.98, 4th in the JGPF 143.80
    3 Carolyn Ann Alba 124.75 => 7th in the JGP Romania 101.23, no 2nd assignment
    4 Deedee Leng 124.51 => didn't get a JGP assignment

    2008 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Marissa Secundy 110.38 => 6th in the JGP Czech 123.12, doubtful for a 2nd assignment
    2 Sophia Lamay 108.41 => no pending JGP assignment
    3 Felicia Zhang 106.02 => no pending JGP assignment
    4 Agnes Zawadzki 104.18 => no pending JGP assignment

    Note that the PCS factors at the 2008 Nationals were reduced for the novices, but that didn't entirely account for the drop in scores compared to the two previous years.
    Last edited by ChrisH; 09-19-2008 at 10:14 PM.

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    I believe that the USFSA only guarantees a second assignment for men and ladies if they finish in the top 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    I believe that the USFSA only guarantees a second assignment for men and ladies if they finish in the top 4.
    That is true. The rules for Pairs and Dance are a lot looser.

    Canada has its own rules. They used to follow '4th or better or no second event', but that has fallen by the wayside, because what was happening was Canada wasn't filling all its slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH View Post
    Here is some relevant history about US Nationals novice medalists, including Secundy:

    2006 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Rhiana Brammeier 138.23 => didn't get a JGP assignment
    2 Blake Rosenthal 127.16 => 7th in the JGP Taiwan, no 2nd assignment and it was too late to get a 2nd assignment anyways
    3 Brittney Rizo 124.27 => didn't get a JGP assignment
    4 Michaelee Scarincio 121.30 => didn't get a JGP assignment

    2007 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Angela Maxwell 131.65 => 3rd in the JGP USA 120.26, no 2nd assignment
    2 Kristine Musademba 129.25 => 2nd in the JGP Austria 137.16, 4th in the JGP Great Britain 117.98, 4th in the JGPF 143.80
    3 Carolyn Ann Alba 124.75 => 7th in the JGP Romania 101.23, no 2nd assignment
    4 Deedee Leng 124.51 => didn't get a JGP assignment

    2008 US Nationals novice medalists and what they did in the JGP
    1 Marissa Secundy 110.38 => 6th in the JGP Czech 123.12, doubtful for a 2nd assignment
    2 Sophia Lamay 108.41 => no pending JGP assignment
    3 Felicia Zhang 106.02 => no pending JGP assignment
    4 Agnes Zawadzki 104.18 => no pending JGP assignment

    Note that the PCS factors at the 2008 Nationals were reduced for the novices, but that didn't entirely account for the drop in scores compared to the two previous years.
    Thanks for the history lesson, ChrisH, but Novice Scores at Nationals are NOT relevant to JGP assignments. Usually, only the Novice champion is guaranteed a JGP event. If one recent champion didn't get an event, it may have had something to do with the lack of progress after Nationals. In the case of Musademba, she had been Intermediate champion the year before she finished 2nd in Novices, and she had an outstanding record in her summer competitions. The USFS saw her as an exceptional talent, and that's why she got JGP assignments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Thanks for the history lesson, ChrisH, but Novice Scores at Nationals are NOT relevant to JGP assignments.
    That's over-stated. Novice scores along with a myriad of other things, have relevance. Yukiko's score and not her 1st place at Skate Copenhagen (in March) was one of the biggest indicators of her potential success in Ostrava. Marisa also placed 1st in an event in March (AEGON Cup) but with a score that was 33 points less than Yukiko. The ISU certainly doesn't ignore scores. Seasons best scores are used to gain entry into GP events and scores are used as tiebreakers in qualifying for the JGPF and the GPF. You need to look at both placings and scores.


    If one recent champion didn't get an event, it may have had something to do with the lack of progress after Nationals. In the case of Musademba, she had been Intermediate champion the year before she finished 2nd in Novices, and she had an outstanding record in her summer competitions. The USFS saw her as an exceptional talent, and that's why she got JGP assignments.
    Right, several things with Nationals placings and scores being the most important, went into the evaluation of Kristine's talent. Angela placed 3rd in her 1st assignment last year but got a low score (she had 4 falls) which must have played a part in her not getting a 2nd assignment.

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    Angela Maxwell

    The 2nd place for Angela Maxwell is good but the protocol shows that the FS was not ideal.

    After a perfect 3T-3T combination (apparently the best in the season with 9,75 points!) she showed only 2F, 2Lz and 1F in the middle of the program and lost many points.

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