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    The VP Candidate from Alaska

    She has the power of her convictions. I like that even though I do not agree with much of her convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    She has the power of her convictions. I like that even though I do not agree with much of her convictions.
    I know about lots of politicians who have / had the power of their convictions - the results were often questionable at best, if not devastating.

    I don't want to pretend that I understand anything about your politics over there and I don't think I even want to try. But I seeing the campaign websites of Obama and McCain - I just can't shake off the feeling that the victims of Katrina were very unlucky because their catastrophe didn't happen in the election year.

    Do the VPs even matter? Weren't they just chosen to pacify the voters? McCain chose someone who is young, pretty and fresh and very Christian - to balance his age and indifference towards certain conservative matters, Obama chose someone old and experienced - to balance his inexperience and youth.

    E.g. if McCain wanted a woman - why not Condoleezza Rice? She is 53, it's not like she already has one foot in the grave. She has tons of experience, she was a professor at Stanford for political science, she was a diplomatic advisor during the end of the cold war, she was in charge of Stanford and sorted out the financial problems there, she is the secretary of state. What's the problem with her? Is she too driven, too ambitious, too much of an overachiever? Is it the fact that she is pro-choice and no former beauty queen? Is it that she doesn't have a perfect family to show off on stage, is not your average hockey mom and has no son going to Irak? Because having a son serving in Iraq apparently qualifies you to be president:

    as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops.
    That's from the official press release of the McCain campaign! I mean, they are kidding, right? They have to be.

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    i firmly believe that if her gender was male, she would never have been even considered, let alone chosen. Women look at issues (at least this woman does), and don't vote with their uterus.

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    I'd have to agree with Medusa. If a woman were to chosen, I'd have gone with Condoleeza Rice. Sarah Palin doesn't do much to impress me. It was a wasted move to try to appeal to women who just want to vote for a woman. Thankfully I'm not one of those-the issues are more important.
    It'll be interesting to see how she holds up in debates against Joe Biden.

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    I know that the election shouldn't be about personal stuff and the candidate's families - but the irony in this made me smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I know that the election shouldn't be about personal stuff and the candidate's families - but the irony in this made me smile.
    Me too. And my sympathy for the candidate is limited. If you choose to run on "family values," you have to be prepared that it could come back on you. And on your family member, which I do think is unfortunate since she didn't control her mother's choice of issues.

    I find the strategy of the nomination insulting. Not only do I not vote with my uterus, I won't vote for someone just because she has a uterus. But I'm not exactly the targeted audience. I voted for Clinton in the primary, but I'm a yellow-dog Democrat. There was never a snowball's chance I'd go GOP.

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    I find Sarah Palin embarrassing. Is she for real or just a "grand stander" looking for attention? She seems to thrive on media attention. Whew, I am glad I am Canadian. Our politicians are boring and predictable but they do try to keep out of the limelight- at least until after they are voted out of office!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladskater View Post
    I find Sarah Palin embarrassing. Is she for real or just a "grand stander" looking for attention? She seems to thrive on media attention. Whew, I am glad I am Canadian. Our politicians are boring and predictable but they do try to keep out of the limelight- at least until after they are voted out of office!!
    want to use examples as to how? she hasn't been doing interviews until just now...

    either the Canadian media is portraying her even worse than the US media (wouldn't surprise me as we know who most of the international community is cheering for) or you just don't know her well enough. or... both.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/op...13sat1.html?hp

    Have you ever thought about what would happen if Islamic extremists meet Christian extremists? The world would never have peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennylovskt View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/op...13sat1.html?hp

    Have you ever thought about what would happen if Islamic extremists meet Christian extremists?
    You mean what we have now?

    But about the vice presidential candidates, I really think that interest has peaked and in a week or so we will get back to Obama and McCain.

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    personally I think the president should be more concerned about THIS country than other countries. Kissing up to the global community and ignoring your own, like Obama has done for a lot of his early campaign, and showing them more respect than the voters you are trying to get doesn't show me that you have the right set of priorities for the job.

    But I'm just one of those "American killers", raised by one of those "Vietnam American Killers", so what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    either the Canadian media is portraying her even worse than the US media (wouldn't surprise me as we know who most of the international community is cheering for)
    The media doesn't need to portray McCain/Palin in a bad way, they are quite capable of doing that themselves.

    And have you ever asked yourself why the international community is cheering for Obama? Reading lots of comments by US-Americans it's because we don't know anything about you lot and want to watch your country turn into a socialistic unimportant footnote in history.

    Do people really believe that? Don't you think that despite the fact that we are not from the US we might have some not completely egocentric reasons for wanting to have someone at the top of your country who isn't going to start preemptive strikes and devastating wars without the backing of NATO or UN? Someone who might actually be interested in diplomacy and peace?

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