Joesitz said:But if you believe in the full faith and trust in the judges, that's ok with me.
Wouldn't be in this business if I didn't.
Joesitz said:But if you believe in the full faith and trust in the judges, that's ok with me.
Lee said:
It just blows my mind how, on the basis of just a handful of corrupt officials, people believe ALL judges are corrupt.
Like Norlite, I *do* have faith in the judges. I've gotten to know many of them during the past 14 years my daughter has skated, and I am sooo impressed with the dedication and love of the sport they demonstrate.
Norlite said:Speaking of corrupt judges ........here's everyone's favourite, Yuri Balkov, judging with his fancy touch screen at Nebelhorn.
Ptichka said:And, from Russia, Alla Shehovtseva -- she just happens to be the wife of Valentin Piseev, the president of the Russian Federation of Figure Skating! Can you spell "c-o-n-f-l-i-c-t- -o-f- -i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t"?
Norlite said:I actually don't see that as a conflict of interest at all. I would only see a conflict if a skater was related to a judge.
Most judges are very involved with their federations. They are not strangers off the street, they are qualified volunteers within their NGB, and sit on many commitees within that federation.
I think this is a big problem. The way the system operates, all of the judges are beholden to their national federations for their assignments. The national federations, in turn, have as their primary objective the promotion of the fortunes of skaters from their own countries -- that's what national means. So the judges are automatically under pressure to see the contests that they are judging in terms of "our skaters" and "their skaters."Norlite said:I actually don't see that as a conflict of interest at all. I would only see a conflict if a skater was related to a judge.
Most judges are very involved with their federations. They are not strangers off the street, they are qualified volunteers within their NGB, and sit on many commitees within that federation.
Mathman said:But the idea being pushed by the World Skating Federation and others, that judges should be hired (and paid!) by the ISU based on objective criteria separate from the favor of the natonal federations, is a good one, IMHO.
Norlite said:Then you must be particularly pleased with the new Technical officials (Controller, Speciallist, Ass't Specialist) that is now in use with the CoP, Mathman. These positions are paid employees of the ISU.
There is a suspicion among some fans that this is Cinquanta's way of getting around federations objections to having judges paid employees of the ISU,( which by the way, is not a WSF idea, Speedy has been trying to implement this for a while now. )
hockeyfan228 said:I, for one, am thrilled by this. To see former skaters like Jan Hoffmann (referee, 2 events), Alexei Urmanov, and Bruno Marcotte (tech specialists) getting paid by the ISU and no longer beholden to their federations makes my heart sing.
Norlite said:Referee's are not paid officials. Did I miss this in the information?
Jan Hoffmann has been an ISU International level judge for some time now. The Tech officials are to be hired from high level skaters or coaches, not established judges.